Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
Ridge Creek School experiencing well deserved success
Jill Ryan:
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--- Quote from: "RobertBruce" ---HLA eventually was subject to the same inspections and oversight. Of course this was only after we forced it on to Buchi.
--- Quote ---I think what you are describing occurred at HLA. I think the improvements have been difficult for the school as they grow but the transparency has benefited the children and the school alike.
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So then what are you basing this on Whooter? How could you possibly know?
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If you read here on fornits about all the problems that HLA had. lawsuits etc. and compare that with the detail we are now seeing coming out of the ORS Reports from the oversight provided by DHS it is easy to see that RCS is not anything like its former self.
The DHS is visiting and speaking with the students and there is no evidence of abuse by any staff members or brainwashing, torture or thought control. We are seeing the normal problems that at-risk teens bring to a residential program (atleast that seems to be the view of DHS since the school is growing under their supervision).
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Highlighted portion not true. If one reads the ORS reports and one 'studied' the previous reports when RCS was Hidden Lake Academy, the ORS in their own reports clearly stipulates that the infractions were previously cited on dates often years before re: medication mix-ups, lack of documents, lack of incident reporting, counselor training(CPR, proper restraint, etc.),dental, medical, judicial background checks,etc.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Jill Ryan" ---Highlighted portion not true. If one reads the ORS reports and one 'studied' the previous reports when RCS was Hidden Lake Academy, the ORS in their own reports clearly stipulates that the infractions were previously cited on dates often years before re: medication mix-ups, lack of documents, lack of incident reporting, counselor training(CPR, proper restraint, etc.),dental, medical, judicial background checks,etc.
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I think these are always going to be issues, Jill. Institutions mix up medications all the time. Some of the better hospitals do this. RCS may do "due diligence" and get their people trained, then a year later they hire new people and the mistakes start all over again. Training is an ongoing issue in any business and hospitals struggle with the same problems themselves. What we are not seeing is all these reports of abuse, brainwashing and torture that many here on fornits claims to happen inside of these programs. We are not seeing reports of kids being denied food or being placed in isolation for extended periods of time. DHS has been interviewing these kids periodically, on site, and they have not been able to uncover any instances of kids being abused by staff or brainwashed. All this stuff that use to occur at HLA is not happening at RCS and I think this is a huge improvement or maybe the survivors reports were in error and these events never occurred I really dont know, but either way RCS seems to be a much better program than HLA was.
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RobertBruce:
--- Quote ---If the DHS want to speak to a child they will insist that the child be present or ask that he/she be brought back from wilderness to be interviewed. The DHS does not care about people schedules or the inconvenience they impose upon people or schools. They are there to focus on the children.
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If the DHS agent doesn't know an incident occured to begin with, why would they demand to speak with the child?
--- Quote ---Exactly, if the kids say they have been abused then it would be in DHS's reports. So far DHS has not reported any abuse occurring at RCS so we have to conclude that non occurs there.
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Not at all. We've already seen evidence that incidents are occuring and never making in into the reports. Furthermore mental and emotional abuse may not fall within their scope of reportable offenses.
Whooter:
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If the DHS agent doesn't know an incident occured to begin with, why would they demand to speak with the child?
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They wouldn't , Robert. But they are visiting the campus and speaking with many of the kids, if there was a systemic problem with abuse they would uncover it. It is what they do and they are trained to be observant and ask the right questions.
--- Quote ---Not at all. We've already seen evidence that incidents are occuring and never making in into the reports. Furthermore mental and emotional abuse may not fall within their scope of reportable offenses.
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The DHS is trained to notice kids who have been abused and kids who do not feel safe in their environment. These are trained professionals, they are not going to catch every little incident but they will definitely pick up on a major problem or if kids are being abused. They are very thorough as we have seen in the ORS Reports.
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Dysfunction Junction:
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--- Quote ---If you read here on fornits about all the problems that HLA had. lawsuits etc. and compare that with the detail we are now seeing coming out of the ORS Reports from the oversight provided by DHS it is easy to see that RCS is not anything like its former self.
The DHS is visiting and speaking with the students and there is no evidence of abuse by any staff members or brainwashing, torture or thought control. We are seeing the normal problems that at-risk teens bring to a residential program (atleast that seems to be the view of DHS since the school is growing under their supervision).
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HLA operated for almost 12 years before things really started to hit the fan. Also keeping in mind that RC still employs the same tactic off sending kids out into the woods whenever a major incident occurs. A kid who isn't around can't talk to DHS. Furthermore there is nothing in the reports that detail the mental and emotional abuse these kids go through.
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Great point, Robert.
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