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Questions about Arthur R. Barker and the Seed

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starry-eyed pirate:
I am curious about Art Barker.  I don't really know too much about him.  I was in $tr8 in the mid 80s and am trying to trace the various lines of influence.  I wonder how far he was into his AA recovery when he founded the Seed.  I wonder how a man like Barker secures a 1 million dollar start-up grant from congress.  What became of him after the Seed closed ??  As far as I know the Seed only operated for 6 years or something like that.  What do you know about him ??  I am interested in knowing more about Art Barker and the roots of the Seed.

Thankyou.

none-ya:
The old bastard is fuckin' dead.Never to be held accountable for the crimes commited by himslf and countless others in his name.

starry-eyed pirate:
'Ey none-ya, do you know how long the Seed ran for ??  How many programs there were ??  and where they were ?? curious.  I know there was a Ft. Lauderdale Seed, St Pete and one in Cleveland too, whatcha got ??

none-ya:

--- Quote from: "starry-eyed pirate" ---'Ey none-ya, do you know how long the Seed ran for ??  How many programs there were ??  and where they were ?? curious.  I know there was a Ft. Lauderdale Seed and one in Cleveland too, whatcha got ??
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You know all that stuff is here in a bunch of pretty old posts. But let's see. Started in ft lauderdale 71-72
St. petersburg late 72 And I beleive they ran a second location in Dade (miami). Barker had a falling out with the state(i guess they cut off the $$). The leftovers of the St.pete program morphed into straight. That godamn morgan yacht building. Barker (i think) cut and ran to Cleavland. Again I'm not sure of the dates. There are people here who know a lot more of the hisotrical particulars than i do. Here is an old link to a guy who was gonna' write a book about the seed, but I don't think it ever happened.
http://www.insidersview.info/theseed.htm

starry-eyed pirate:
Thanks none-ya.  I red the link.  A pretty well thought out piece and interesting to compare with my own experience in $tr8 in the 80s.  Not much new information on Barker though.  I wonder about him.  I wonder how he acquired his funding from congress, whether or not he ever met Robert DuPont or had a connection to the Narco Farm and who the first Seedlings were.

I noticed an article in Mother Jones by Maia Szalavitz in which a flow chart of the various splinters off a Synanon shows the Phoenix House as the direct predecessor to the Seed.  I wonder if Art Barker had any connection to the Phoenix House before he founded the Seed or what she based that on.

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