Ridge Creek "School" - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation

[Whooter]

So from a finacial perspective, you at best case not including trip expenses broke even. Counting the trip expenses you lost money on the trip.

RC was operating with several positions filled. They then lost the people in those positions either through terminations, layoffs, or the people simply quit. Now they are attempting to refill those same previously filled positions.


3-3+3=3 That is not growth. Stop spinning.

If you look at the web site and the employees they had last year you would see that these are newly created positions that are opening up.  Len is taking a step back from his various hats and hiring new people due to present and anticipated expansion.  There is no requirement that they have to hire people, Robert.  Adding all these salaried people to their roster is a result of their present growth and preparing for 2011.

I think we can all agree that if they were not doing well then they would be laying off.  So we can conclude that they are thriving in this economy and preparing for a prosperous 2011.



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[RobertBruce]

If you look at the web site and the employees they had last year you would see that these are newly created positions that are opening up. Len is taking a step back from his various hats and hiring new people due to present and anticipated expansion. There is no requirement that they have to hire people, Robert. Adding all these salaried people to their roster is a result of their present growth and preparing for 2011.

I think we can all agree that if they were not doing well then they would be laying off. So we can conclude that they are thriving in this economy and preparing for a prosperous 2011.

They aren't required to have a headmaster? Or an admissions director? What kind of place is this? You're claiming now they've been operating this entire time without these key positions filled?

[Whooter]

If you look at the web site and the employees they had last year you would see that these are newly created positions that are opening up. Len is taking a step back from his various hats and hiring new people due to present and anticipated expansion. There is no requirement that they have to hire people, Robert. Adding all these salaried people to their roster is a result of their present growth and preparing for 2011.

I think we can all agree that if they were not doing well then they would be laying off. So we can conclude that they are thriving in this economy and preparing for a prosperous 2011.

They aren't required to have a headmaster? Or an admissions director? What kind of place is this? You're claiming now they've been operating this entire time without these key positions filled?

When businesses are starting out and are small the owner takes on many responsibilities and is the head of every department.  As the business grows and prospers the owner steps back and hires department heads and other employees to meet with the growing demand.  As RCS continues to grow they will hire more people.



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[RobertBruce]

Whooter wrote:

When businesses are starting out and are small......

Starting out? Whooter RC has been around for years. Furthermore much of the infrastructure of HLA was simply transfered over to RC after we forced Buchi to close up shop. So you're claiming that this entire time RC has been operating without key staff members?

[Whooter]

Whooter wrote:

When businesses are starting out and are small......

Starting out? Whooter RC has been around for years. Furthermore much of the infrastructure of HLA was simply transfered over to RC after we forced Buchi to close up shop. So you're claiming that this entire time RC has been operating without key staff members?

RC was a wilderness only and just recently changed into a boarding school for college preparatory kids who are at-risk.  After HLA closed they needed to start over.  When a place starts over they need to employ (or re-employee) new ed-cons to refer students to them.  They need to employ new people, this takes time to grow the business back to the point where they can afford to hire heads for each department,  especially Master leveled employees.  Small businesses and businesses starting out are run by the people who start them and they wear several hats for years until the business grows to a point where they can start hiring people to head up various departments which allows the owners to step back a little and manage the business instead of the day to day details.

 It appears that RCS has positioned itself to take on more students than it did in 2010.  Hiring heads of departments is a very good sign especially in this economy.



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[RobertBruce]

RC was a wilderness only and just recently changed into a boarding school for college preparatory kids who are at-risk. After HLA closed they needed to start over. When a place starts over they need to employ (or re-employee) new ed-cons to refer students to them. They need to employ new people, this takes time to grow the business back to the point where they can afford to hire heads for each department, especially Master leveled employees. Small businesses and businesses starting out are run by the people who start them and they wear several hats for years until the business grows to a point where they can start hiring people to head up various departments which allows the owners to step back a little and manage the business instead of the day to day details.

It appears that RCS has positioned itself to take on more students than it did in 2010. Hiring heads of departments is a very good sign especially in this economy.

So again you're sticking by the claim that RC has never had these positions filled?

[Dysfunction Junction]

Bruce is correct here. They had these positions filled previously and now are operating without them.

[DEE]

These positions, along with a number of others, are vacant because those who held them previously feared for their personal saftey, as well they should. No one, to my knowledge, is still working at Hidden Lake/Ridge Creek who was there a few years ago, or even one year ago. My prediction is that those they hire to fill these positions will not be there one year from now, unless they are all former corrections department employees who are used to dealing with dangerous criminals.

[Dysfunction Junction]

These positions, along with a number of others, are vacant because those who held them previously feared for their personal saftey, as well they should. No one, to my knowledge, is still working at Hidden Lake/Ridge Creek who was there a few years ago, or even one year ago. My prediction is that those they hire to fill these positions will not be there one year from now, unless they are all former corrections department employees who are used to dealing with dangerous criminals.

Thanks for clarifying this for us, DEE.  Our resident RCS spokesperson has been spinning several yarns about the state of affairs at RCS.  I'm glad to get your confirmation that he is indeed lying.

[Jill Ryan]

Guest 3 I am surprised your dialogue is allowed. Mine was deleted without notice:) I gather one cannot advise another "they are out of their league."

To the above poster... Guest 3 has read ALL the ORS regulations, along with myself, and Deborah. There was constant dialogue between the ORS and the activists aforementioned, including DJ, to tighten the loopholes in their regulations and to finally require Hidden Lake Academy that was "with purpose" "operating undar the radar and allowed to for over 11 years(at the time of ORS licensing). Documents and emails between the ORS and the aforementioned activists, also shared with the GAO agents are solid. Their findings, "all the Georgia agencies, including the Georgia GAO and the ORS repeatedly dropped the ball." Among other things. Agent recommendation " Go to the Federal Att. Gen. of Georgia."

The last exchange with the ORS in 2010, emails and the Governor's office(phone conversation) was still demanding accountability.

Guest 3 met with the GAO agents assigned to Hidden Lake Academy in Washington, D.C. and the GAO interviewed countless others by visits in Georgia and lengthy phone conversations, emails, document collection over 4 months.

Mr. Buccellato dodged their bullet, only because of the on-going Class suit in Federal court.

[heretik]

Guest 3, Jill, DJ, Dee and RobertBruce,
Thanks for your hard work. This clarafication is welcome news. This fool has colored these boards for the last time with his BS.

[Guest3]

Bucci can be whatever he wants. Why don't you ask the former and current parents how many times he's actually shown up there on campus? Oh, perhaps once in a while to pander for money. He never sat down with any of our kids to talk to them nor did he ever contact any of us to let us know how he thought our children were doing. (And since he's a "doctor" he should be able to do that.)
This is from another thread, but important:

I have read the ORS rules and regulations, but thank you for the suggestion. Our actions and diligence helped lead to the state of Georgia ultimately requiring HLA/RCS to become licensed. Unlike you, I do want to be informed - I'm not just spinning tales to further my own cause or personal agenda. I would love to post links, but unfortunately ORS's web site is currently under construction and I can't post the links. I'm not going to bother posting the link to show you it's down - do it yourself if you're really that interested in knowing the truth.

As for rape documents... I think even you, Whooter, are smart enough to know that rape victims files are sealed and their identities are protected for obvious reasons. But I think you already knew this, Captain Obvious.

Thanks for trying to discredit us. Better luck next time.Guest3
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[Dysfunction Junction]

Thanks for clarifying, Guest3.  Whooter is a spokesperson for RCS and we realize he is lying about RCS.  The reports tell the truth.

[Guest3]

Whooter wrote:

When businesses are starting out and are small......

Starting out? Whooter RC has been around for years. Furthermore much of the infrastructure of HLA was simply transfered over to RC after we forced Buchi to close up shop. So you're claiming that this entire time RC has been operating without key staff members?

RC was a wilderness only and just recently changed into a boarding school for college preparatory kids who are at-risk.  After HLA closed they needed to start over.  When a place starts over they need to employ (or re-employee) new ed-cons to refer students to them.  They need to employ new people, this takes time to grow the business back to the point where they can afford to hire heads for each department,  especially Master leveled employees.  Small businesses and businesses starting out are run by the people who start them and they wear several hats for years until the business grows to a point where they can start hiring people to head up various departments which allows the owners to step back a little and manage the business instead of the day to day details.

 It appears that RCS has positioned itself to take on more students than it did in 2010.  Hiring heads of departments is a very good sign especially in this economy.



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Whooter - you are dead wrong. HLA never really closed - it was re-named Mountain Brook Academy while Ridge Creek Wilderness was still operational. Now Mountain Brook Academy has been re-named Ridge Creek School so Bucci still has two operations going on the same property. HLA/MBA/RCS has been open for business all along. The staff that he had at HLA/MBA/RCS just transitioned with the name changes. Bucci never had to "start over" as you imply. Please get the facts straight (which by the way are a matter of public record).

http://www.ridgecreek.org/

http://www.ridgecreekschool.com/

[Jill Ryan]

Let's not forget "CREEEKSIDE" which accroding to THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE was never registered.  Also the ORS DIRECTOR never heard of "CREEKSIDE" and the DJJ DIRECTOR faintly recalled a contract with "CREEKSIDE."



RCS moving forward:

DJJ - RIDGE CREEK WILDERNESS AND CREEKSIDE
by Jill Ryan » 28 Sep 2009, 17:47

According to court records, doc. 64 FILED 09-27-09 PAGES 9-11, under "RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL BUDGET" SEPT. 2009- AUG. 2010 , "RIDGE CREEK WILDERNESS" and "CREEKSIDE" BUDGETS are on hold "PENDING RELEASE OF FUNDS FROM THE STATE OF GEORGIA WHICH HAS PLACED A FREEZE ON ALL PLACEMENTS BY THE DJJ AND DEFCS.

** " THE PROJECTED INCOME FROM RCW AND CREEKSIDE WAS TO BE 75,000. PER MONTH PROGRAM AND CAN BE ACTIVATED IN TWO DAYS WITH MINIMAL OPERATIONAL COST."

NICE JOB ORS.. DO THE FAMILIES PLACING THEIR CHILDREN AT RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL KNOW THIS? DO THE ED. CONS KNOW THIS?

DOES THE TOWN COUNCIL KNOW THIS?