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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #465 on: January 07, 2011, 12:49:32 PM »
We had a highschool teacher who was teaching Biology and at one point he referred to us as products of our parents.  He pointed out that we had characteristics of those before us in our family.  Some kids objected (as you have) to the use of calling the kids “products”.  He pointed out that we were still young, had much of our education ahead of us and, as students, we still carried one/two dimensional thinking and that eventually we would see that words can carry multiple meanings and need to accept new ideas and points of view.

As far as grasping the concept of therapy, you may be right.  I understand its value because I have seen the positive results first hand in family members and friends.  But I don’t claim to understand all the facets of the profession because it was not my professional focus.



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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #466 on: January 07, 2011, 12:52:55 PM »
So, let me explain it to you in the context of the TTI/Ridge Creek School:

"The parent is the mark, the child is the victim."

Under normal treatment circumstances, we would call the child the "client" or the "patient".  I hope this helps.
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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #467 on: January 07, 2011, 01:10:24 PM »
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So, let me explain it to you in the context of the TTI/Ridge Creek School:

"The parent is the mark, the child is the victim."

Under normal treatment circumstances, we would call the child the "client" or the "patient".  I hope this helps.


 lol,  okay, I will take that as your way of saying you understand.



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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #468 on: January 07, 2011, 01:18:51 PM »
Yes, I understand that you do not understand the concept and I understand that children are not products.  They are people.

Unfortunately, at RCS, they are considered "cash cows" and end up being horribly abused in a dangerous environment where assaults, beatings and rapes are commonplace events according to DHS oversight reports.
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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #469 on: January 07, 2011, 01:29:28 PM »
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Yes, I understand that you do not understand the concept and I understand that children are not products.  They are people.

Unfortunately, at RCS, they are considered "cash cows" and end up being horribly abused in a dangerous environment where assaults, beatings and rapes are commonplace events according to DHS oversight reports.

So you want the readers to believe that DHS documents beatings and rapes in their reports yet the school is still open and no one has been fired or brought to trial?  Hmm...  okay.  How about kidnapping, torture and brainwashing?  They must do that too lol  Does the DHS document the "amber alerts" in their reports too?



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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #470 on: January 07, 2011, 05:58:26 PM »
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Quote from: "DHS Report on RCS Prison Camp"
Staff A said Resident #1 then
picked up a chair and said "not until I finish some business." Staff A said Resident #1 then threw
the chair against the window causing it to shatter.


Staff A went on to state that Resident #1 ran
out of his/her room towards Resident #2's room. Staff A said Resident #1 was screaming and
running causing residents to look. Staff A said when he/she got to the room there was Resident
#1 and #2. Staff A said he/she arrived in the room the same time Resident #3 and #4 entered. Staff
A reported that there was a split second where it was just Resident #1 and #2 alone in the room,
so he/she was able to pull Resident #2 to the side.

Staff A said Resident #1 was on the floor when
Resident #3 and #4 started kicking Resident #1.


Staff A then stated that he/she was trying to
cover Resident #1 and deflect as many of the kicks as possible. Staff A said about 10 seconds
after he/she arrived in the room, Staff C entered; however,

Staff C wasn't able to assist as much
because he/she was not trained in emergency safety interventions. Staff A said Resident #1
received about 10-15 kicks to the face and blood was everywhere.


Staff A then reported that
Resident #3 pushed Staff C to the side. Staff A recalled that Staff B came in the room right after
Staff C. Staff A stated that Resident #4 pushed Staff B through a crowd of residents that were
outside the room blocking the entrance. Staff A then reported that Staff B was able to get back up
and restrain Resident #4. Staff A said when Resident #4 was restrained, he/she could be heard
and got the residents to leave the area. Staff A said Staff B was able to get the aggressors out of
the room.

Staff A said he/she walked Resident #1 out of the room and and took Resident #1 to
the emergency room with Staff B.


 Staff A stated that Staff C was on his/her second day of work,
so he/she was trying to get the residents away, but did not restrain anyone. Staff A indicated that
Resident #1 had a broken nose, 2 chipped teeth, but no concussion.


Staff A recalled that there
were about 15 residents present in the doorway at the time of the incident. Staff A reported that at
the time of the incident there were 29 residents total, including the ones that were fighting, and
three staff members on duty for that dorm.

Interview with Resident #1 was conducted on 6/28/2010 at 2:42 pm. Resident #1 reported that at
the beginning of the day he/she had a fight with another resident that day, who was later picked
on by Resident #5. Resident #1 said she/he told his/her counselor about the issue and the
counselor spoke with Resident #5. Resident #1 said later that day Resident #2 came to his/her
room and threatened him/her. Resident #1 said he/she got angry and ran down the hall to
Resident #2's room. Resident #1 said they started fighting and all he/she can remember is being
attacked by others. Resident #1 said Staff A was trying to keep Resident #2 off of him/her, while
Staff B was trying to enter the room.

Resident #1 stated that some residents blocking the door.
Resident #1 said residents were hitting him/her. Resident #1 said he/she went to the hospital and
was diagnosed with a broken nose and swelling. Resident #1 said Staff A and B took him/her to
the emergency room. Resident #1 said he/she blacked out a little when he/she was hit to the
head.


 Resident #1 reported that staff knew he/she was getting angry throughout the day, but Staff
A did what he/she could. Resident #1 said he/she told his/her counselor that day that he/she was
being antagonized by Resident #5. Resident #1 said he/she thinks that Staff A knew about the
problems he/she was having and that's why Staff A came to the room to talk. Resident #1 said
Staff C didn't get in the room, but Staff B was trying to keep people out of the room.
Interview with Staff C was conducted on 6/28/2010 at 3:00 pm. Staff C said on June 10th, he/she
noticed something was going on when Resident #1 broke a window. Staff C said Staff A was with
Resident #1. Staff C said he/she was floating around the dorms when he/she heard yelling. Staff
C said Resident #2 was in the hallway when Resident #1 made it into Resident #2's room.

Staff C
said it was a "mad rush" between residents and staff going to the room. Staff C said when he/she
made it in the room, he/she saw Resident #2, #3, and #4 beating on Resident #1. Staff C stated
that he/she grabbed the shoulder of Resident #3 while Staff A was shielding Resident #1. Staff C
said Resident #3 was able to break free and kick Resident #1. Staff C said Staff B came in the
room after having some trouble entering due to residents blocking the doorway.

Obviously, RCS is just a "school" where there's lots of "structure" to keep it a "safe environment for the kids."

RCS is like Lord of the fucking Flies, man.  The inmates run it.

I'm sure RCS will make these parents available for others to interview before locking their kids up at RCS, right?

Those DHS reports just keep a-comin' now, don't they?
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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #471 on: January 07, 2011, 06:16:17 PM »
The Georgia  Department of Social Services periodic reports further support that these kids are out of control and need help.  As the above poster has pointed out this is not normal activity for teenagers and the kids are obviously suffering from emotional disorders.  I think we can all agree that these kids were not doing well in their home environment and would not be able to thrive in a public school system.

The ORS reports support the schools position that these kids need therapy and a structured environment to assist them in their growth towards independence.  Most of these same kids that are acting out today move on to attend college and become productive members of society thanks to RCS's efforts and the dedicated staff that work hard to turn these kids around.

The team work between the Department of Social services and RCS serves a vital role in the continuous improvement of this small, but growing, therapeutic school.



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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #472 on: January 08, 2011, 07:42:40 AM »
It's a jail, not a school.
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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #473 on: January 08, 2011, 09:50:35 AM »
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The fact that it is thriving can be considered testimony that it is providing a service worthy of the price that it demands.

Thriving? What are you basing this on Whooter, and how could you possibly know?
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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #474 on: January 08, 2011, 11:24:48 AM »
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The fact that it is thriving can be considered testimony that it is providing a service worthy of the price that it demands.

Thriving? What are you basing this on Whooter, and how could you possibly know?

Ridge Creek is actively expanding their employee base for 2011 to meet the growing demand for RCS's services.



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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #475 on: January 09, 2011, 09:04:07 AM »
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Ridge Creek is actively expanding their employee base for 2011 to meet the growing demand for RCS's services.


This is you attempting to spin a situation to make it look good. They aren't expanding anything, they have numerous vacancies they are required to fill. Growth would be the hiring of additional staff, or creating new positions, this is filling in a hole. Nothing more. There is no growing demand for RC because the truth about this place keeps coming to light.
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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #476 on: January 09, 2011, 09:13:43 AM »
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Ridge Creek is actively expanding their employee base for 2011 to meet the growing demand for RCS's services.


This is you attempting to spin a situation to make it look good. They aren't expanding anything, they have numerous vacancies they are required to fill. Growth would be the hiring of additional staff, or creating new positions, this is filling in a hole. Nothing more. There is no growing demand for RC because the truth about this place keeps coming to light.

Actually you are wrong, Robert, this is the school preparing for 2011 growth.  As readers, we all know that if RCS was required to fill these positions you would have presented the requirement.  They did fine in 2010 without their present staff and since they are experiencing growth they need to add on new people.  We can all agree that any business which is struggling or not doing well is not going to hire all these high salaried people, they would be laying off people.
As usual you come up short in your attempts to put a negative spin on Ridge Creek Schools signs of success.



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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #477 on: January 09, 2011, 09:25:04 AM »
Whooter if you travel to Vegas head over to the craps table lose $200 the first night, but come back the second and  win $200 the second and then go home, would you say you earned any money as a result of your trip?
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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #478 on: January 09, 2011, 09:56:30 AM »
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Whooter if you travel to Vegas head over to the craps table lose $200 the first night, but come back the second and  win $200 the second and then go home, would you say you earned any money as a result of your trip?

If you looked at just the craps activity the trip would be a "wash".  If you included the money you spent on food, hotel and travel then you would have lost money on the trip.  If you factored in that you had a good time as a result of the trip then you could say you came out ahead.

So it depends on ones' perspective.



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Re: Ridge Creek School - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
« Reply #479 on: January 09, 2011, 10:08:59 AM »
So from a finacial perspective, you at best case not including trip expenses broke even. Counting the trip expenses you lost money on the trip.

RC was operating with several positions filled. They then lost the people in those positions either through terminations, layoffs, or the people simply quit. Now they are attempting to refill those same previously filled positions.


3-3+3=3 That is not growth. Stop spinning.
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