Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
Ridge Creek "School" - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Guest3" ---I'm completely forgot about Creekside! Of course there have been so many of them, it's hard to keep them all straight.
Whooter - you asked a question about why we don't correct people you believe are lying about RCS. Very simple, it's been my personal experience (as with many others on here) to have been lied to by HLA/RCS on numerous occasions. The reports they put forth are inaccurate and manipulated to conceal the true events that occur when they've been forced to write up an incident report. I have been lied to my face, as well as in emails and phone calls. The bottom line is anything they say lacks any credibility because they have lied and distorted the truth so much in my past experience. They've obviously got you fooled or you would be able to realize that an "unwanted sexual encounter" is rape or sexual assault. So much of what happened/happens is covered up, not reported, or the story is changed to lessen the severity of what occurred. I question YOUR motives. Why do you care so much about RCS? Do you have money invested there? Why would you start a thread called "RC experiencing well deserved success"? First of all, what is meant by "well deserved"? What have they done to earn a claim of "well deserved"? Sadly it's just YOUR attempt to derail the real issues here and market a sinking ship. Have you ever been to HLA or RCS? Or is all of this just how you believe it to be? We HAVE been there, we HAVE experienced these things firsthand.
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You are forgetting one thing, Guest3, the DHS are talking to the kids directly about the incidents. You cannot fool the readers into believing that they are also lying in the ORS reports. The ORS never reported any rape occurring, they understand the definition better than you do, they work with kids at risk all the time, if there was a rape they would have stated that. Lying does not help your cause at all. Why not just tell the truth instead of trying to discredit RCS and now the ORS reports? It really makes all of you look very bad.
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Guest3:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "Guest3" ---I'm completely forgot about Creekside! Of course there have been so many of them, it's hard to keep them all straight.
Whooter - you asked a question about why we don't correct people you believe are lying about RCS. Very simple, it's been my personal experience (as with many others on here) to have been lied to by HLA/RCS on numerous occasions. The reports they put forth are inaccurate and manipulated to conceal the true events that occur when they've been forced to write up an incident report. I have been lied to my face, as well as in emails and phone calls. The bottom line is anything they say lacks any credibility because they have lied and distorted the truth so much in my past experience. They've obviously got you fooled or you would be able to realize that an "unwanted sexual encounter" is rape or sexual assault. So much of what happened/happens is covered up, not reported, or the story is changed to lessen the severity of what occurred. I question YOUR motives. Why do you care so much about RCS? Do you have money invested there? Why would you start a thread called "RC experiencing well deserved success"? First of all, what is meant by "well deserved"? What have they done to earn a claim of "well deserved"? Sadly it's just YOUR attempt to derail the real issues here and market a sinking ship. Have you ever been to HLA or RCS? Or is all of this just how you believe it to be? We HAVE been there, we HAVE experienced these things firsthand.
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You are forgetting one thing, Guest3, the DHS are talking to the kids directly about the incidents. You cannot fool the readers into believing that they are also lying in the ORS reports. The ORS never reported any rape occurring, they understand the definition better than you do, they work with kids at risk all the time, if there was a rape they would have stated that. Lying does not help your cause at all. Why not just tell the truth instead of trying to discredit RCS and now the ORS reports? It really makes all of you look very bad.
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Yawn. Please point out where I am lying? How soon does DHS talk to the kids after these incidents occur? Hours, days, weeks or months? I know for a fact that in some of the incidents that occurred the kids weren't interviewed until weeks and months after the incidents occurred. And even then the staff members wanted to sit in the rooms with the kids while they were being interviewed. How open do you think these kids are going to be with the threat of Big Brother over them? I'm not trying to discredit or say the ORS is lying. Their reports are only going to reflect how comfortable the kids feel talking to complete strangers. After my child was attacked my child was told the incident wasn't as bad as he made it out to be by a staff member.
BTW - when are you going to answer the questions I asked you?
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Guest3" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "Guest3" ---I'm completely forgot about Creekside! Of course there have been so many of them, it's hard to keep them all straight.
Whooter - you asked a question about why we don't correct people you believe are lying about RCS. Very simple, it's been my personal experience (as with many others on here) to have been lied to by HLA/RCS on numerous occasions. The reports they put forth are inaccurate and manipulated to conceal the true events that occur when they've been forced to write up an incident report. I have been lied to my face, as well as in emails and phone calls. The bottom line is anything they say lacks any credibility because they have lied and distorted the truth so much in my past experience. They've obviously got you fooled or you would be able to realize that an "unwanted sexual encounter" is rape or sexual assault. So much of what happened/happens is covered up, not reported, or the story is changed to lessen the severity of what occurred. I question YOUR motives. Why do you care so much about RCS? Do you have money invested there? Why would you start a thread called "RC experiencing well deserved success"? First of all, what is meant by "well deserved"? What have they done to earn a claim of "well deserved"? Sadly it's just YOUR attempt to derail the real issues here and market a sinking ship. Have you ever been to HLA or RCS? Or is all of this just how you believe it to be? We HAVE been there, we HAVE experienced these things firsthand.
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You are forgetting one thing, Guest3, the DHS are talking to the kids directly about the incidents. You cannot fool the readers into believing that they are also lying in the ORS reports. The ORS never reported any rape occurring, they understand the definition better than you do, they work with kids at risk all the time, if there was a rape they would have stated that. Lying does not help your cause at all. Why not just tell the truth instead of trying to discredit RCS and now the ORS reports? It really makes all of you look very bad.
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Yawn. Please point out where I am lying? How soon does DHS talk to the kids after these incidents occur? Hours, days, weeks or months? I know for a fact that in some of the incidents that occurred the kids weren't interviewed until weeks and months after the incidents occurred. And even then the staff members wanted to sit in the rooms with the kids while they were being interviewed. How open do you think these kids are going to be with the threat of Big Brother over them? I'm not trying to discredit or say the ORS is lying. Their reports are only going to reflect how comfortable the kids feel talking to complete strangers. After my child was attacked my child was told the incident wasn't as bad as he made it out to be by a staff member.
BTW - when are you going to answer the questions I asked you?
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So lets agree that you were mistake about the ORS reporting that a rape occurred. We both have read the reports and have read that the kids are interviewed by DHS. We know that the police are involved periodically.
If you can point out where the ORS claims a rape occurred then I think the readers would be interested to see it. But you cant just insert the word rape into their report or try to discredit DHS because they mis worded the documents or didnt know how to handle an interview with children. I think many of you have stooped to a low level of misleading the readers by trying to discredit the DHS and their report accuracy.
As far as your question I will look back and see what I missed.
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Jill Ryan:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Thanks for clarifying, Guest3. Whooter is a spokesperson for RCS and we realize he is lying about RCS. The reports tell the truth.
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You make up lies about RCS because they found out you lied on your employment application about serving time for selling drugs to kids. So they terminated you on the spot (which was the right thing to do), DJ. You cannot work in any aspect of the industry due to your record and now you blame RCS.
If you would like me to re-post the link I would be happy to.
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This is not true. Buccellato knew of the backgrounds of staff, exploiting those people, so that he could control them. Documents /emails attest to that fact. There were numerous employees that had previous drug problems, including counselors.
The only people that the backgrounds were hidden from were the parents.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Jill Ryan" ---
This is not true. Buccellato knew of the backgrounds of staff, exploiting those people, so that he could control them. Documents /emails attest to that fact. There were numerous employees that had previous drug problems, including counselors.
The only people that the backgrounds were hidden from were the parents.
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I dont want this to turn into a "Smear DJ thread" so lets end it with this:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---I personally would advise never to tell. Nothing good can come from it. Only REAL possibility is getting terminated on the spot.
DEFINITELY don't tell, even when asked.
The laws are all fucked up, yes. I ended up getting hit with 1-3 in NYS system for my first and only pop - no sale involved. However, I was CHARGED with A Class felony which carries 25-life in NY.
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Link
He could never get another job in the industry after that (there are other posts to support this) and is now blaming HLA/RCS. My point being that this may be enough motivation to lie and spend years here on fornits trying to discredit the school.
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