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Ridge Creek "School" - Serious Safety Issues/ORS Violation
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Now, as far as kids being court-ordered, this quite obvioulsy has nothing to do with socioeconomic status. Whether or not these kids are mandated into "treatment" or not, the parents still have to pay the $4800/mo at RCS. I don't think too many "inner city kids" families would be able to support this $60K/year expense. Whooter and Danny are here simply to disrupt this thread by trolling me.
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This is false. The courts do not force families from the inner city to come up with the price of treatment.
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---When I worked there, they certainly did accept court-ordered kids. Some of those kids were severly disturbed and violent.
Recent attendees have stated that there are, in fact, many court ordered kids there right now. Some allegedly are multiple violent felons, some ivolved with very serious gang violence.
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You were not being truthful with the readers here, DJ. In one post you state that inner city kids cant attend because they cant afford it. In another post you state that they accept kids court ordered because of gang violence.
All we are asking is that you be truthful. It doesn’t matter to us if they accept court ordered kids or not. Just don’t try to deceive us that’s all.
If HLA use to accept gang violent kids but now that they changed to RCS and do not then just state that.
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Troll Control:
Lols. Whooter is flailing and trolling again. If you don't like what scroft wrote, take it up with scroft.
And, again, you have no idea what you're talking about re: court mandated kids. None. If their parents can afford a private facility and the court is amenable then the parents pay. If not, the kids become wards of the state.
If you knew anything, anything at all about gangs and gang violence you would know that many kids get involved with gangs even those of high SES stature. The two are by no means mutually exclusive. I worked several research projects and have personally seen it. You, OTOH, know nothing of the subject. No surprise there, huh?
--- Quote ---And, as other urban ills spill into suburbs, gangs too are on the rise
in places like Westchester and Long Island, where middle-class children,
bored and with time and money on their hands, band together to protect
their turf from outsiders.
"Some schools, especially in the suburbs of central cities and in
small towns, pretend they have no gang problem," writes Knox in "Schools
Under Siege" (Kendall / Hunt Publishing Co., 1991, $44.95). "School
administrators stick their heads in the sand like ostriches and just
hope that the gang problem . . . will disappear . . . Some of the
pressure to ignore [the] gang problem is generated by the community
itself . . . This is especially true in middleand upper-class
communities where the `stigma' of gangs or school crimes is not
something the community wants."
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Link to expose Whooter's incredible ignorance on this subject
--- Quote ---Teenage gangs can exist almost anywhere. It was largely thought that teenage gangs only existed in impoverished, urban areas, but teenage gangs have been found in upper-class neighborhoods, too. The 311 Boyz, for instance, was made up of kids who lived in affluent Las Vegas neighborhoods, who were arrested numerous times for violent crimes.
Read more: Dangers of Teenage Gangs | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_4598245_dange ... z0xXRpD2oP
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Another stunning example of just how stupid Whooter actually is...
And more... I could go on for pages....
--- Quote ---In gangs
with more intelligent members, these feelings end up making each member want to
be the star when the groups commit a crime. This makes the gang much more
organised and improves the morale of members which in turn makes them more
dangerous and very hard for the police to deal with and catch. This sort of gang
is usually common of middle or upper class people, although it can happen in
gangs in the projects and other low rent districts too.
--- End quote ---
Of course I never said "the state forces inner city kids to pay private fees," or anything even remotely resembling that nonsense. You just made that up to manufacture an argument, as usual and to shift the focus from your incredible ignorance, as usual.
Whooter:
Sometimes it is good to go back to the original posts and take a look:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Now, as far as kids being court-ordered, this quite obvioulsy has nothing to do with socioeconomic status. Whether or not these kids are mandated into "treatment" or not, the parents still have to pay the $4800/mo at RCS. I don't think too many "inner city kids" families would be able to support this $60K/year expense. Whooter and Danny are here simply to disrupt this thread by trolling me.
--- End quote ---
Link
This is false. The courts do not force families from the inner city to come up with the price of treatment.
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---When I worked there, they certainly did accept court-ordered kids. Some of those kids were severly disturbed and violent.
Recent attendees have stated that there are, in fact, many court ordered kids there right now. Some allegedly are multiple violent felons, some ivolved with very serious gang violence.
--- End quote ---
Link
You were not being truthful with the readers here, DJ. In one post you state that inner city kids cant attend because they cant afford it. In another post you state that they accept kids court ordered because of gang violence.
All we are asking is that you be truthful. It doesn’t matter to us if they accept court ordered kids or not. Just don’t try to deceive us that’s all.
If HLA use to accept gang violent kids but now that they changed to RCS and do not then just state that.
...
Troll Control:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Lols. Whooter is flailing and trolling again. If you don't like what scroft wrote, take it up with scroft.
And, again, you have no idea what you're talking about re: court mandated kids. None. If their parents can afford a private facility and the court is amenable then the parents pay. If not, the kids become wards of the state.
If you knew anything, anything at all about gangs and gang violence you would know that many kids get involved with gangs even those of high SES stature. The two are by no means mutually exclusive. I worked several research projects and have personally seen it. You, OTOH, know nothing of the subject. No surprise there, huh?
--- Quote ---And, as other urban ills spill into suburbs, gangs too are on the rise
in places like Westchester and Long Island, where middle-class children,
bored and with time and money on their hands, band together to protect
their turf from outsiders.
"Some schools, especially in the suburbs of central cities and in
small towns, pretend they have no gang problem," writes Knox in "Schools
Under Siege" (Kendall / Hunt Publishing Co., 1991, $44.95). "School
administrators stick their heads in the sand like ostriches and just
hope that the gang problem . . . will disappear . . . Some of the
pressure to ignore [the] gang problem is generated by the community
itself . . . This is especially true in middleand upper-class
communities where the `stigma' of gangs or school crimes is not
something the community wants."
--- End quote ---
Link to expose Whooter's incredible ignorance on this subject
--- Quote ---Teenage gangs can exist almost anywhere. It was largely thought that teenage gangs only existed in impoverished, urban areas, but teenage gangs have been found in upper-class neighborhoods, too. The 311 Boyz, for instance, was made up of kids who lived in affluent Las Vegas neighborhoods, who were arrested numerous times for violent crimes.
Read more: Dangers of Teenage Gangs | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_4598245_dange ... z0xXRpD2oP
--- End quote ---
Another stunning example of just how stupid Whooter actually is...
And more... I could go on for pages....
--- Quote ---In gangs
with more intelligent members, these feelings end up making each member want to
be the star when the groups commit a crime. This makes the gang much more
organised and improves the morale of members which in turn makes them more
dangerous and very hard for the police to deal with and catch. This sort of gang
is usually common of middle or upper class people, although it can happen in
gangs in the projects and other low rent districts too.
--- End quote ---
Of course I never said "the state forces inner city kids to pay private fees," or anything even remotely resembling that nonsense. You just made that up to manufacture an argument, as usual and to shift the focus from your incredible ignorance, as usual.
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This is the truth of the matter and Whooter is caught lying again. So what does he do? Lie some more! "Nope, NO MIDDLE OR UPPER CLASS KIDS ARE IN GANGS, DJ! You lie!" What a dope.
Once more, I said that if the kid is mandated into treatment and the kid's parents can afford private treatment and the court is amenable then the kid can go to a place like RCS, but the parents must foot the bill. It's a standard arrangement for adjudicated kids and there are plenty of families of gang-banger kids that can afford it. Whooter is just ignorant and doesn't know this.
Whooter:
Lets go back to the original posts and take a look... Dysfunction Junctions own words:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Now, as far as kids being court-ordered, this quite obvioulsy has nothing to do with socioeconomic status. Whether or not these kids are mandated into "treatment" or not, the parents still have to pay the $4800/mo at RCS. I don't think too many "inner city kids" families would be able to support this $60K/year expense. Whooter and Danny are here simply to disrupt this thread by trolling me.
--- End quote ---
Link
This is false. The courts do not force families from the inner city to come up with the price of treatment.
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---When I worked there, they certainly did accept court-ordered kids. Some of those kids were severly disturbed and violent.
Recent attendees have stated that there are, in fact, many court ordered kids there right now. Some allegedly are multiple violent felons, some ivolved with very serious gang violence.
--- End quote ---
Link
You were not being truthful with the readers here, DJ. In one post you state that inner city kids cant attend because they cant afford it. In another post you state that they accept kids court ordered because of gang violence.
All we are asking is that you be truthful. It doesn’t matter to us if they accept court ordered kids or not. Just don’t try to deceive us that’s all.
If HLA use to accept gang violent kids but now that they changed to RCS and do not then just state that.
...
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