Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Idea for Carey
Grams:
Hi Carey:
Nice to hear from you too. But, why under anon? It is so obvious it is your ranting.
Anonymous:
does it come as a surprise that PURE has more enemies than just WWASP and Carey.
Hello!!!
Deborah:
So what's your story? Will we, the public ever get to hear it, or are you just here to shoot "drive by" comments like all the others anons involved in the feud?
And no, I'm not in either camp.
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2003-10-15 13:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I am not sure what Carey is trying to say or prove in making any connection with ISAC and Sue Scheff. "
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Sue, ISAC is where I first got the hot tip that you wanted to sue me. Future note. Don't waste your money on costly PR campaigns. Just contact ISAC with your press release, but mark it *** SECRET ***
Marti, it breaks my heart to see you being taken for this same old ride yet again. Please wake up.
If you believe that people cannot be trusted to govern themselves,
then can they be trusted to govern others?
--Thomas Jefferson
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Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2003-10-15 17:06:00, Grams wrote:
"Ginger, what are you missing? This has nothing to do with PURE or Sue Scheff. If you want to defend Carey, ask her what she gave WWASP.I don't, nor have the Colburns ever worked for PURE or Sue. Because we posted on her site, does not mean we are on her payroll. I am posting right here, am I on your payroll? That is a ridiculous assumption.
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Ok, Blanche, you've worn me down. If you insist, I'll list you and the Colburns and anyone else who posts to this site and wants to be listed as "Fornits volunteers", OK? Will that make you happy? It's Blanche Hardy, right? From Granbury, TX? Do you want your email address included? Would you like a special "Fornits Volunteers" forum? Are you willing to pitch for the extra bandwidth and disk space?
--- Quote --- Carey went to Sue and ask for help, at that point, we all tried to help her.
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Oh yeah! I've seen a good sampling of that kind of 'help'. I had about enough of that over 20 years ago.
--- Quote --- Confidential information (not PURE's info). Just our experiences and positions on children's abuse going on. I don't know any negative info on PURE to share with anyone. If you are a survivor, you know how they operate.
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Exactly! That's why it's so damned easy for me to see you guys coming. I know all the lines verbatum. Sure wish Marti would wise up. Despite recent differences, I knew her a long time ago and sincerely wish the best for her.
--- Quote ---Our opinions of WWASP or Straight are our opinions and not to be shared with WWASP, so they can try to tie up everyone in a court battle for slander.
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Uh, opinions and true facts are not slander. Don't let anyone run you around. You have every right to speak your mind right out in public. They may sue, but they will lose. Hell, they'll sue anyway if they want to, even if they have to plant evidence. Ask Svetlana. Maybe she can draw on her experience growing up in the Soviet Union.
Your best bet, honestly, is to not only spread the word so far and wide that they can't accomplish shutting you up (cause the word's already out, regardless of how hard they spank you) but also put the word out everywhere for anyone who's gotten a letter of demand threatening a SLAP suit to send copies of those letters. Then you get to (collectively?) clean there ever lovin' clocks for filing frivolous lawsuites. Instead, you all cower in your respective corners, jumping at shadows and pretending to yourself that you've got some hot info worth big bucks to WWASP and you're the only ones. You haven't. You're not. You just still in the Program.
--- Quote ---Its our experiences and opinions. I wish you had been around when Carey was begging all of us to help her and we were there for her, only to be stabbed in the back afterwards. In your opinion, is this right? "
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Depends on how you define "stabbed in the back". If, by that, you mean breaking with the group opinion and refusing to come into agreement, well, in my opinion, that's one of the rightest things any human being can do.
Now, please spend some time and look over all the Carey bashing threads. Hey, why not invite your grandaughter to join you. Then you tell me if this is the way civilized human beings ought to treat eachother.
THAT, more than anything (except your website) is what has destroyed your credibility with this reader. What others make of it, I don't know. Why not ask them?
Understand that legal and illegal are political, and often arbitrary,
categorizations; use and abuse are medical, or clinical, distinctions.
--Abbie Hoffman
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