Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
deleted September 8, 2011
Whooter:
Here is a program teacher staff list:
These are the teachers that ASR have on staff.
Ballou-Baldwin, Martha Administrative Assistant .... Licensed Practical Nurse
Gutermuth, Brittany Teacher......BA in Environmental Studies
Jasinski, Chris Teacher....... BA in Linguistics and Minor in French
LaForest, Jennifer Teacher .........Bachelor of Arts degree in Chemistry & Philosophy
Lyons, Judith Learning Specialist .......Masters in Education from Fitchburg State.
Misener, Melinda Teacher .......degree in Comparative Literature.
Tripler, Charles Teacher ......no info
Wallender, John Teacher ...... bachelor’s from State University of New York,
Wilcox, Dennis Academic Registrar/Scheduler .......majored in Mathematics
Williams, Greg Teacher ....BA in Biology from the Univ of Penn.
Winston, Jeff Teacher ..... Temple University with a degree in Communications.
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9403390:
Ive come to this pretty late. Whooter having a general degree is not enough for working directly with kids who can have complex problems. I got hired and I had a commerce degree with a marketing minor. But I was expected to help run group therapy sessions that were sometimes really emotionally intense. I had not even worked in my field yet. It is not like working at summer camp. You have to deal with situations that require real knowledge and a sophisticated level of expert skill. Lots of these kids are still young and if their issues are dealt with in expertly it can lead to making the problem a lot worse. I really did not know what to do when kids would tell the group that they had been sexually abused.
i should add that the guy who i had to work most closely with did not have any degree. He was straight from the army. The way he acted toward the kids did not calm them it actually sometimes provoked a more angry reaction. One time he used what they called a pain compliance technique that basically involved giving the kid chinese burns. I don't even remember what the kid was being difficult about.
it was meant to make the kid quickly compliant but it lasted for like 20 minutes. This kid got more angry and ended up being asked to leave because he eventually took a swing at the guy. He was in for taking drugs like dope and had no prior history of violence. He had always been pretty mellow for most staff. He wasn't even a smart ass.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "9403390" ---Ive come to this pretty late. Whooter having a general degree is not enough for working directly with kids who can have complex problems. I got hired and I had a commerce degree with a marketing minor. But I was expected to help run group therapy sessions that were sometimes really emotionally intense. I had not even worked in my field yet. It is not like working at summer camp. You have to deal with situations that require real knowledge and a sophisticated level of expert skill. Lots of these kids are still young and if their issues are dealt with in expertly it can lead to making the problem a lot worse. I really did not know what to do when kids would tell the group that they had been sexually abused.
i should add that the guy who i had to work most closely with did not have any degree. He was straight from the army. The way he acted toward the kids did not calm them it actually sometimes provoked a more angry reaction. One time he used what they called a pain compliance technique that basically involved giving the kid chinese burns. I don't even remember what the kid was being difficult about.
it was meant to make the kid quickly compliant but it lasted for like 20 minutes. This kid got more angry and ended up being asked to leave because he eventually took a swing at the guy. He was in for taking drugs like dope and had no prior history of violence. He had always been pretty mellow for most staff. He wasn't even a smart ass.
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9403390, When my daughter attended they had a masters level licensed counselor who was assigned to each peer group (as they were called then) and she also saw a independent therapist who was not paid by the school. Do they still do this? They had a guy from the army but he was in the wilderness piece and was pretty tough on the kids and was expected to get them in shape for main campus.
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9403390:
I worked in wilderness for aspen not the main school but nevertheless whether it is wilderness or a school my point is the same. If anything wilderness is even more stressful for all concerned so just employing some army guy or someone with a commerce degree to work with the kids often without any qualified supervision is worse. It concerned me that all the guys on your list taught but none had education degrees or diplomas. If I had a regular kid at a normal school i would want all the teachers to have the right qualifications. With the added issues that kids with various mental health issues have it seems to me twice as important that they are at least getting qualified teachers.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "9403390" ---I worked in wilderness for aspen not the main school but nevertheless whether it is wilderness or a school my point is the same. If anything wilderness is even more stressful for all concerned so just employing some army guy or someone with a commerce degree to work with the kids often without any qualified supervision is worse. It concerned me that all the guys on your list taught but none had education degrees or diplomas. If I had a regular kid at a normal school i would want all the teachers to have the right qualifications. With the added issues that kids with various mental health issues have it seems to me twice as important that they are at least getting qualified teachers.
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9403390, I didnt include their complete bios. Some had previous experience teaching and/ or teaching degrees I went through their bios quickly and posted their degrees to show that these programs hire people with an education (contrary to what the thread topic says). I believe a few had masters degrees on top of the BAs that I posted.
But you also need to keep in mind that many of these kids dropped out of school and to get them into the classroom with dedicated teachers and open their books , get them back on track academically and study is a huge step. They have a huge success rate of kids moving onto the college of their choice after graduation. So academically they have been very successful.
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