Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Brainwash, Mind Control, Blind Trust
anon:
[ This Message was edited by: KarenZ on 2003-10-18 18:10 ]
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2003-10-12 16:58:00, Carey wrote:
"Ginger, I want to say I am sorry if I offended you with some of my remarks.
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You didn't offend me. I've just seen this argument from a lot of different perspectives over the last 33 or so years since my parents were the parents in question. You know that old saw about how dumb your dad was when you were 17 and how much he'd improved himself by the time you were 25? Well that's a lie. They don't really smarten up till you bring them grandchildren. Then they learn the difference between petty power struggle and high stakes issue.
--- Quote ---I think the only way to stop the abuse is to make parents accountable. Parents have to be the NUMBER ONE, FIRST line of defense.
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Yeah, like I said. Start bringing them grandchildren, and they smarten up real quick sometimes. Sometimes not. But the parents are accountable already, no matter what. Trust me on this one, they suffer in their lonely old age, just like anyone.
--- Quote ---They have to know that it is their responsibility to protect their child from predators.
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It's born in us. They already know it and can only put it out of mind to a certain degree.
Underneath it all, we all know the same truths. And we all have to live with them. These people got swindled out of their very progeney! I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
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If WWASP is shut down today, then another program will open tomorrow. We see it happening over and over again. As long as the demand is there, then the supply will be there too."
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That's why I care so much less about punishing anyone for anything than for getting testimony, depositions and other discovery material onto the public record. Do you want to know the amount of my bandwidth bill one month from people pulling that material from Mitchell vs. Mitchell transcripts? It was shocking!
It's not really so much about punishing the bad guys for me. It's all about getting the story out. I have a stayed belief in basic human decency and prescience and I do not believe the public would support these cruel scams if they really understood what they were looking at. This includes the people currently getting reamed out for some imagined transgression in a RR seminar right now and those doing all the shouting.
It's obnoxious to ask law enforcement to follow the law. That's insulting to every cop.
--John Lovell, lobbyist for the California police chief's association
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Antigen:
Keren, your patient sounds a whole lot like my brother on a bender. So should we cast disparagements upon all Irishmen?
Define psychotic. Ok. Not like that at all, and you're quite correct that that was not the best choice of words.
I'm talking about the purely natural response to threat sometimes called the battle warp. Other times called the three F's. So mother rottweiler in a battle warp is a better and more artful turn. Thanks! Sorry Carey. :wave:
When I started as a federal narcotics agent, the budget that we were working with, it was less than $5 million a year, and there was only 125 agents for the entire world to work the narcotic trade that we were fighting in those days. Times have changed. The gluttony has grown.
--Nick Navarro, former Broward, FL Sherrif
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anon:
[ This Message was edited by: KarenZ on 2003-10-18 18:12 ]
Antigen:
A judge I admire once (or twice) said that we should reserve our prisons for people we're scared of, not people we're just mad at. I have no doubt there are players within WWASP ought to wind up either put away or divested of their wealth and publicly humiliated and shamed.
Like I said, the parents are responsible. We know that because we're moms. They know it too when you really get down to it. You can't get any more accountable than that. What we have to make them is able to see these scammers coming a mile away. The rest comes naturally.
Q. I simply ask, why is PUNISHMENT the solution with regards to the narrow group of behaviors which encompass illegal drug use....?A.Pharmaceutical Business, both legal and illegal, run by the same people either way, money coming to the middle from both ends. Bush.
Bill Gallagher
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