Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Brainwash, Mind Control, Blind Trust
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---Judging by how many of these parents are "potential plaintiffs" in the HURON lawsuit, I'd say these parents are sorry, allright. Plaintiff-ly Sorry [/QUTOE]
Really, well maybe if that is all it takes is being sorry, then maybe WWASP can just be sorry too?
I don't think these parents are sorry. I think these parents are mad because they spent sooooo much money and got very little in return. I would love to know for each plantiff in this case, how many months total their child was left in the program. I would love to know how many months it took before they had any REAL communication with their child. I would love to hear how the program brainwashed them (the parent). What was the method used on the parent, isolation, deprivation, WHAT?
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Carey:
That was me.
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2003-10-11 17:53:00, Anonymous wrote:
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--- Quote ---and then kept stroking us so we wouldnt wake up.
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So, while you, you poor thing, were being stroked, what was happening to your child? How sad, how selfish...but beleivable.
Sorry Ginger, but I don't beleive the parents were or are brainwashed. They have not been isolated from society, deprived of their normal defenses, given little or no food, etc., etc. I do beleive that the kids who have been in the program may have been and maybe still are brainwashed, but the parents, NO WAY.
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No, they really are. Carey, I have known a LOT of program parents in my lifetime. Remember that, from the time I was around 6 until I was 15 and placed in Straight, program families were the only people I was really allowed to hang out with. Open meetings every Friday, "volunteer" work making up lunches for group on Sundays. We're talking about the culture of my childhood here; my kin, my tribe, the folks I knew better than I knew myself in my formative years.
They do become isolated from the rest of society. Not by brute force, they volunteerily impose the isolation on themselves. Have you noticed how insular the TeenHelp forums are? These folks only talk to eachother and, in order to keep group approval, are not allowed to be friends with anyone 'not in good standing'. How the parents are discouraged from having much meaningful contact with their own extended family members if they're not 'supportive of the program'?
No, there's no one standing over them every minute of every day keeping them from using a telephone. But they become convinced that if they buck the program, their children will die!
Carey, I've had people my age call me and tell me they'd wanted to speak to me for awhile, but were afraid one of the other program parents would find out and turn them in to staff. I know and you know they have every freedom to just pull their kids. They don't know that anymore. They're well trained to equate quitting the program with murdering their own child.
Our Constitution is in actual operation; everything appears to promise that it will last; but in this world nothing is certain but death and taxes.
Ben Franklin Letter to M. Leroy, 1789.
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Carey:
Ginger, I respect you and your insight on this topic, but I do not agree with you that the parents are "brainwashed." Maybe they are easily influenced by others, but they are not brainwashed.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2003-10-11 19:32:00, Anonymous wrote:
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--- Quote ---Judging by how many of these parents are "potential plaintiffs" in the HURON lawsuit, I'd say these parents are sorry, allright. Plaintiff-ly Sorry
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Really, well maybe if that is all it takes is being sorry, then maybe WWASP can just be sorry too?
I don't think these parents are sorry. I think these parents are mad because they spent sooooo much money and got very little in return. I would love to know for each plantiff in this case, how many months total their child was left in the program. I would love to know how many months it took before they had any REAL communication with their child. I would love to hear how the program brainwashed them (the parent). What was the method used on the parent, isolation, deprivation, WHAT?
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Seems to me these parents really have nobody to blame but themselves and that the only people who should benefit from a lawsuit are the children who were made to suffer the consequences of their parents actions. Second, if these parents are so outraged, why didn't they bring their own civil lawsuits against the people alleged to have abused their children? Doesn't make sense at all but then again, most of these parents are claiming they JUST RECENTLY WOKE UP which seems to suggest they were comatose the rest of the time and unable to take any DIRECT ACTION themselves. Wonder how that explanation will hold up in the court of public opinion, not to mention a court of law? I mean, where is the documentation to prove these parents were suffering from anything but indifference to the
quality of their child's care and treatment? If it's there, I honestly don't see it except in a few publicized cases involving children whose parents pulled them shortly after placement.
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