sorry it hurts so much Gonzo. The book was independent. (you cant shake that). The study was independent too (had oversight by a third party). Cant shake that either.
Do I think for a moment that you will accept this? Not at all, how could you? How could anyone here on fornits? What would happen to this site?
But the studies are out there. It was also presented to the APA annual meeting. I have a friend who thinks all the cancer studies are fixed because the researchers are doctors who work for the industry. He can think what he wants just like you can Gonzo.
You wanted Studies and a book by a Pulitzer prized winning author.. you got it lol and I provided links
If you want to reject them, it is up to you.
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Why would a program let a journalist come in and write anything bad about it. I guarantee you that they made him sign a contract that it had to be a pro-program book or they would not let him use the information he found there. They would have sued his ass if he defamed them.
And as far as you "psychologist" link, all she does for a living is help programs. She makes her entire livelihood off of programs. And again, she is from Utah. Red flags left and right, WWASPS birthplace, lack of child safety laws. Not to mention the fact that SEVERAL Aspen programs are clients of hers.
When you provide info, if you want it to be taken seriously, it must be independent information. People who profit from programs are obviously biased, why would they shoot themselves in the foot? That would be like you coming on here and admitting that you profit from programs and you and all your cohorts are lying thieving pieces of shit.
dO yOu seE WHat I MeAN? :ftard: :beat:
20/20 did a story on Paradise Cove exposing their abuse, it was shut down not long after, the footage from that show is now banned in the US. Why? Because programs buy their way out of trouble ALL THE TIME!