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Anonymous:
Karen - you said you never attended :wink: the adult personal growth seminars in a thread some time ago. Many think that the seminars brainwash parents into thinking they need to keep their kid in the program, which they don't...but say if they did, then you were not brainwashed as you never attended one, right?
Carey:
--- Quote ---Your right about this ; But what you so stubbornly don't see, is this was not the intent or understanding of the parents who try the Program.
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Karen, you can only speak for yourself. You can not tell me or anyone else what the other parents understanding is or was.
--- Quote ---No one would agree to the kind of cutting off thats actually takes place if they understood it from the start.
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I think it is funny that you say this. You know why? The reason is, and so you will know, I too am very much against these programs, however, probably 90% or more of the parents that I have spoken with in regard to the limited communication and the length of time that lapsed before they were able to talk to their child, chose to leave their child in the program for much longer than what the "enrollment agreement" stated was the norm. Why did such a high number of these now disgruntle parents go along with it when it became a reality? So as you say "no one would agree to the kind of cutting off thats actually takes place" then why did it take them so long, like months, to say "hey something is not right here."
I agree in a moment of desparation a parent might make a poor decision about the placement of their child in a program, but after the dust settles why do they then not start to see the signs? Why has it taken a lot of these disgruntle parents so long to see what was happening?
We even know of one parent, someone you and I both know, who made trips to Dundee, and yet left her child there for a year, and is now speaking out against them. WHY? Why did it take a year? Why did it take Amberly 6 months, after resigning (a total of 10 -12 if you add her time at Dundee) to speak out against Dundee? Why with what all has been discovered did it take these two people so long to speak out? Were they afraid for themselves? That is the only thing I can figure. Here you have two adults, actually three given Randall, who could have saved a lot of children a lot of pain and suffering much sooner.
I am so tired of adults who now play the blame game and today act as though they are so righteous. Once again, I think it is a save your butt senario, just like the PURE save your butt senario. I question whether any of these individuals motive is that of protecting children.
Anonymous:
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anon:
[ This Message was edited by: KarenZ on 2003-10-18 18:01 ]
Carey:
--- Quote ---If you really want to know, and aren?t just looking for yet another person to unjustly besmirch
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I have not unjustly "besmirched" anyone, not even you.
Maybe you can tell me where anything I have said has been unjust since you seem to think my stating facts and asking question is unjust in your opinion.
Maybe they, meaning Amberly and Marth can explain the answers to my questions, because I know you don't know anything about anything... I know that you only know what someone else tells you.
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