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APA Task Force Report: ENCOUNTER GROUPS AND PSYCHIATRY

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Whooter:

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http://www.eatabagofdicks.com/


Why is it that my responses are just moved at will. I am simply commenting on what I read here.Curiosity over the origin of the phrase, nothing more. Seems things have been a little slow around here lately,and administrator needs something to do. well here is some more

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... of%20dicks
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It was running off topic I believe.  I took a look around and the saying originated in Seattle:

Literally, to consume a bag full of food from Dick's Drive In, usually 5 fries to one burger.

People like myself out here in the east would not understand the saying.

They sell mugs, hats and T-shirts to promote their food.  So this makes more sense, that was a very strange saying without any link.  Some may take it as Gummi worms but I think that is a stretch.  

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none-ya:
We had best be careful, such talk could get us banned.

Samara:
So bags of dicks aside, I know of two people who went to EST outside of CEDU. One was "trying to find himself." He ended up losing a lot of friends and his very smart, accomplished, beautiful girlfriend in an effort to recruit them to EST. This was in the 80s. 2o years later, the gf (a family friend) ran into him and he was very disenchanted with this time period and his alienating attempt to recruit people and marginalize freinds who didn't join up. Another lady I knew who did EST was trying to shkae something loose after her divorce. I don't remember much except that she said it was a waste of money.

CEDU, however, was chock full of Lifespring staff. What they took as "empowering" was really a superior sense of false enlightenment that they used to justify mindfucking youths. So, yeah, I ahven't really heard of any one Eureka story born out of Lifespring.

Awake:
When it comes down to it there is little likelihood that these encounter groups can be trusted to function for the benefit of the individual, but is truly made to fortify the attitudes of the group, and in this format the group leader has the ultimate control of the expressed attitudes of the participants. That is the original intent behind this kind of group dynamic. History would suggest that one should be wary that of the many  forms encounter groups are packaged in, all of them have equal potential to make use of the coercive tactics that it originally evolved from. Here is a chronological history of development of the basic encounter group.

1946-1947: The National Training Laboratories at Bethel, Maine, began their community development conferences, which later evolved into the T-group and then the encounter group. Several of the leaders had been students of Kurt Lewin and J. L. Moreno. The key figures were Ronald Lippitt, Kenneth Benne, Leland Bradford, and Jack Gibb (Gottschalk & Pattison, 1969; Lippitt, Bradford, & Benne, 1947).

1949-1955: Maxwell Jones developed the concept of the '`therapeutic community" at the Social Rehabilitation Unit (later renamed Henderson Hospital) of the Belmont Hospital in Sutton, England. Around that time, Paul Sivadon in France pioneered the idea of open (unlocked) wards.

1950-1960: Expansion of group psychotherapy, especially by such leaders as Martin Grotjahn, Hyman Spotnitz, Jerome Frank, Florence Powdermaker, Clifford Sager, Helen Papanek, Max Rosenbaum, Helen Durkin, and many others. Children were treated in groups by Haim Ginott, Gisela Konopka, Fritz Redl, and others.

1955-1959: Sensitivity training, an extension of T-group ideas, was being explored at the UCLA School of Business Administration in California and in other locations as part of the expansion of the National Training Laboratories.

The Period of Innovation

1958-1966: Frederick (Fritz) Perls, Laura Perls, Paul Goodman, Ralph Hefferline, and others developed Gestalt therapy in New York; it became popular after Fritz Perls moved to the Esalen Institute in California around 1966.

1963-1966: Marathon (time-extended) group therapy (mainly for personal growth); Frederick Stoller, George Bach, Elizabeth Mintz.

1963-1966: Eric Berne developed his method of Transactional Analysis.

1963-1966: Michael Murphy and Richard Price organized Esalen Institute just south of Big Sur, California. It was the prototype of the "growth center," and hundreds sprouted up around the country (and some overseas) over the next decade. These centers became the focus of the human potential movement, which was a marriage of humanistic psychology and T-group methods.

1967: Will Schutz, at Esalen, combined many modes of therapy with the process of the basic encounter group psychodrama, bioenergetic analysis, sensory awakening, guided fantasy, and a variety of action techniques, many of which were ultimately based on Moreno's methods.

1967: Synanon "games" opened to the public as a form of encounter group in Santa Monica, a seaside suburb on the west side of Los Angeles. Synanon was started in 1958 as a drug abuse treatment center by Charles Diedrich. These games were just short of being violently confrontational, and some of this approach generalized to contaminate parts of the encounter group movement.

Ref: http://www.blatner.com/adam/pdntbk/hxgrprx.htm (full list edited)
I’d also suggest this useful for evaluating the risks of encounter groups viewtopic.php?f=81&t=31447


--- Quote from: "Samara" ---When I was at CEDU, we were forced into encounter groups led by indoctrinated adults... to participate in psychodramas that had nothing to do with our own personal trajectories. It was scripted, it was coerced, it was artificial, it was brutal, and it engendered a false sense of enlightenment that tragically prodded us AWAY from our authentic selves.


I can think of many places "smoke and mirrors" belong - but not in a "therapeutic" setting.
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:nods:    :waaaa:

Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Samara" ---So bags of dicks aside, I know of two people who went to EST outside of CEDU. One was "trying to find himself." He ended up losing a lot of friends and his very smart, accomplished, beautiful girlfriend in an effort to recruit them to EST. This was in the 80s. 2o years later, the gf (a family friend) ran into him and he was very disenchanted with this time period and his alienating attempt to recruit people and marginalize freinds who didn't join up. Another lady I knew who did EST was trying to shkae something loose after her divorce. I don't remember much except that she said it was a waste of money.

CEDU, however, was chock full of Lifespring staff. What they took as "empowering" was really a superior sense of false enlightenment that they used to justify mindfucking youths. So, yeah, I ahven't really heard of any one Eureka story born out of Lifespring.
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There were lots of people who really got into the whole EST thing when I was young.  Some (like your friend) joined up because it was so life changing for them and inspirational.  Others like my wife was merely inspirational.   But the feelings were short lived mostly not very unlike smoking some dynamite weed and all of a sudden being inspired to write poetry or become a painter.  I think there was a very small percentage of people who benefited long term in that it changed their direction in life.



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