You've got literally thousands of posts to pull from and you can't find one.
Actually, it's more like hundreds of thousands.
Let me dumb it down a bit for you, here's what I'm looking for:
A post made by a survivor told in the 1st person about an experience claiming to be abused, only to later be shown to be a lie. All you keep doing is posting references to lies, but no specifics. I would have thought as much as your prattle on about this you would have at least one smoking gun.
Let me know what you come up with.
He'll come up with statements of hyperbole and
evaluative opinion like "kidnapping"and present them as false statements of fact, and he'll quote people like Gonzotherapy
completely out of context to the point where it more or less changes the meaning. He'll also likely quote some fake survivor's account of the program and how wonderful it is.
He
undersands evaluative opinion, or should, and yet continues to call kidnapping a lie. Nobody is arguing that
Here's what Whooter does: If I were to go on a long discussion about brainwashing and end it off with "i was raped" where it was clear I was referring to brainwashing by surrounding context, as has been done elsewhere on the forum, he would cut that one statement out of context, call it a lie (when it would be evaluative opinion), and parade it around the forum as an example of how survivors lie. Now we all know that his twisting of other people's words is completely intentional but that's impossible to prove as you'd have to show his state of mind.
Whooter
wroteI see what you are trying to say, psy, But I don’t agree that kidnapping can just be a matter of opinion. If we accepted this then how would we standardize and understand description from survivors here?
The use of the word "Kidnapping" is not meant to deceive and you know it. In context it's clearly descriptive of an escort service, even to people reading here for the first time. It's opinion, not fact, it's a descriptive label, not a legal term. The fact that a person says "I was kidnapped and brought to a program" makes it VERY clear that this was done with parental consent and the word kidnapping refers to what you call an escort service. Which in my view, is less accurate term to describe what they do. "Escort" implies something voluntary. Likewise with "transport service" which makes it seem as if a package is being shipped. Big burly men bursting into a room at night, putting teens in restraints, dragging them out the door to the car and driving them across state lines sounds a lot more like kidnapping to me than it does "escorting" or "transporting".
They could just as easily say making their bed in the morning was abuse and torture or that being forced to go to school was brainwashing. They could justify their words by saying it felt like torture or abuse or brainwashing
First: if they did it would be clear it was hyperbole/evaluative opinion and not a lie. "This music is torture" for example, is not meant to be taken literally.
Secondly: to my knowledge, nobody has ever tried to pass making their bed or going to school in a program as torture. You are intentionally trivializing and obfuscating very real and very severe incidents of abuse by making it sound like survivors are whiny, spoilt, brats who exaggerate habitually. Like Frederick and others noted. Nobody has to exaggerate and if anything, they sometimes leave the worst bits out for fear they won't be believed.