Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies

[Whooter]

Are you ashamed of this. DJ?  Why not explain why you lied?

Uh, yeah, like there's no industry types on Fornits.  Wait a sec...one of them is you, Mr. Aspen Fiduciary!

Remember when you claimed to have access to RB's treatment records via an HLA staff member on this board?  Or your true love, Ottawa5 whose stated goal was to open her "own program along the lines of CEDU"?  

Your explanation is laughable, troll boy :rofl: .

….. do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Great catch, Ursus, you are on to his MO too I see.   I dont even know who Ottawa5 is.  I did a search on ottawa5 and it turns out that I never had any contact with this poster, not even one post! DJ is starting to lose it I think.  Why does he continue to make this stuff up?  What is the point?  No wonder he didnt provide links its all just fabricated.

Does anyone even know who this Ottawa5 poster is?




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[Whooter]

All those years of you doing this to me, I have to admit it is fun!!!   lol

Well lets take a look at what is real or not.  Hmmmm...

Someone challenged your education history and you got pissed off and started editing and updating your history.

After you edited your posts you wrote this:  which is your education history:

DJ, On June 30, 2010 you posted this:

June 30 post on DJ's education

A few hours before you posted the above you went and cleaned up your history going back 5 years.  Here is an example.  Notice the edit stamp at the bottom says:

June 30, 2010

DJ cleaned up all his history going back 5 years

Another one!  Oh No! DJ was busy cleaning.

Why would you go back 5 years and start editing all your education history just before you posted an update if you have been honest all along?

Just asking.  Why do you accuse others of lying when you deceive the posters here on fornits for 5 years about yourself and education history.

Do you want to tell everyone why you left the industry?  Were you truthful about that too?  Did you have a change of heart or were you forced out because of background checks?  Do you want to take a  look at that next?

See anyone can play the same game you do, DJ.  You have just spent years fabricating an image under the user name Dysfunction junction.



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sting!!!!  wont go away.  lol

[RobertBruce]

I wonder if I should complain about your spamming and flooding the boards. Clearly you cannot use your, "but he's doing it too" excuse in regards to me.

[Troll Control]

Uh, yeah, like there's no industry types on Fornits.  Wait a sec...one of them is you, Mr. Aspen Fiduciary!

Remember when you claimed to have access to RB's treatment records via an HLA staff member on this board?  Or your true love, Ottawa5 whose stated goal was to open her "own program along the lines of CEDU"?  

Your explanation is laughable, troll boy :rofl: .

….. do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Good Catch, Ursus.  Links are not his strength it appears.
ouch!!!  lol

Actually, Whooter, my post was in response to your posting of various falacious Dysfunction Junction posts which apparently are the sole creation of your imagination. Moreover, my original quote, before you altered it, read as follows:

Whooter, do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

PLUS... Your original reply to my post, before you altered it, read as follows:

Whooter, do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Sure[/size], just like everyone else.

Here Whooter admits to cutting/pasting posts in order to make people look bad, but only after Ursus called him on it and posted links to where Whooter hacked up this post.  A moment of honesty.  How refreshing.

[Whooter]

Are you ashamed of this. DJ?  Why not explain why you lied?

Uh, yeah, like there's no industry types on Fornits.  Wait a sec...one of them is you, Mr. Aspen Fiduciary!

Remember when you claimed to have access to RB's treatment records via an HLA staff member on this board?  Or your true love, Ottawa5 whose stated goal was to open her "own program along the lines of CEDU"?  

Your explanation is laughable, troll boy :rofl: .

….. do you have LINKS to the original posts for all this material? Or are you just making this up as you go along?

Great catch, Ursus, you are on to his MO too I see.   I dont even know who Ottawa5 is.  I did a search on ottawa5 and it turns out that I never had any contact with this poster, not even one post! DJ is starting to lose it I think.  Why does he continue to make this stuff up?  What is the point?  No wonder he didnt provide links its all just fabricated.

Does anyone even know who this Ottawa5 poster is?




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[Froderik]

Hi, SUCK IT.  :roflmao:

[Anne Bonney]

Whooter's OP, Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:09 am.

I know it's hard to choose a school or program when your kid is in a crisis and you don't see any other alternative. You kind of have to go on your gut feeling, after doing all the checking and questioning possible. ASR wasn't perfect, but I believe they save our son's life. Overall we were pleased, ...  Read more but there were some things we wish had gone smoother. He got his education, lots of therapy, both private and group, learned how to get along with others and had many experiences unique to ASR. Plus there were many recreational and other non-curricular activities. He clearly needed to be there for at least 14 months. The staff was terrific and communication mostly good. We were very involved in the therapuetic proces.




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I forgot about that.  That was when he agreed to let Ginger link up his anon posts with his The Who account, right?


Son or daughter Whooter?  Which one?

[Froderik]

Get him! Call his ass out!!

Let's put an end to this shit once and for all!!!!

[Anne Bonney]

That's unfortunate. I honestly thought he might be willing to have a real conversation this time. I thought this time he might actually be willing to focus on the topic and discover the truth. I guess I was wrong, he just wants to play games.

Dont be too upset.  I had to deal with the same thing myself.  He grabs hold of an idea to discredit someone and he cant focus on anything else.  He wont have a discussion, its all just a game to him.  He will create threads dedicated to a single poster and then just work on discrediting that person.  It is very odd behavior, but this is the way DJ has been since he started posting here.

He is a little upset now because he is getting just a small taste of his own medicine.  But once he settles in, stops attacking people and starts to contribute it will settle down.  Just give it a little time.



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You seem bent on taking comments out of context. My comment was directed towards you Whooter, not DJ. You are merely describing yourself. I sought an honest  and civil dialouge with you but you're more interested in flooding the boards and playing games.

Completely predictable and typical tactic for him.  He knows damn well what you were saying and Who it was directed towards.  

Whooter posts = nothing but SPIN.

Besides....he needs to protect his "fiduciary interest" here, remember?

[Troll Control]

when people are angry at other people, they can make things up. max was angry at his dad for sending him to a school that robbed him of his youth and closure with his mother. It is equally as likely that he was directing his anger towards his dad and making things up, as it is that his dad was actually involved in his mother's death.

Does anyone know how long Max was away from HLA for his mothers funeral?  Was he forced to go?

3 Days maybe 4 I dont remember.  A family member an aunt I think picked him up and went back with him.  He wasnt forced to go, he was glad to get a break from that place.

Well, here's the conclusive proof that TheWho is either John Reuben or the most shameless liar of all time on Fornits, or both.  

Please explain to us, Whooter, how you are privy to the family information.  We're all ears.

[Troll Control]

when people are angry at other people, they can make things up. max was angry at his dad for sending him to a school that robbed him of his youth and closure with his mother. It is equally as likely that he was directing his anger towards his dad and making things up, as it is that his dad was actually involved in his mother's death.

Does anyone know how long Max was away from HLA for his mothers funeral?  Was he forced to go?

3 Days maybe 4 I dont remember.  A family member an aunt I think picked him up and went back with him.  He wasnt forced to go, he was glad to get a break from that place.

Well, here's the conclusive proof that TheWho is either John Reuben or the most shameless liar of all time on Fornits, or both.  

Please explain to us, Whooter, how you are privy to the family information.  We're all ears.

Here's more of WHooter's detailed, unpublished information regarding Mike Reuben:

Prior to ASR  the father had Mike seen by a specialist in the field of addiction and he was referred to a Counselor who worked one on one with him.  As his grades continued to slip and his relationship with drugs became stronger he was recommended to ASR by The Director of Pediatrics at Children’s Hospital in Boston.
ASR was able to arrest his behavior, teach him to cope with himself and the problems that life will and has thrown at him and set him on a healthy path.  He graduated ASR, attended and graduated from college and continued his interest in Music and a made himself successful in a career in Sales.  He continued to struggle throughout his life with his addiction until it finally took his life.
As we all know addiction isn’t something that is cured but is a lifetime challenge and each person attempts to hold it at bay the best he can.  The road can be long and arduous and in many instances the road is short as it was for Mike.
Please be respectful of this boys life and struggles and don’t twist his story to make him a tool for your agenda.

How would Whooter know all of this unpublished information?

Whooter = John Reuben

[Froderik]

How would Whooter know all of this unpublished information?

Whooter = John Reuben

NAILED!!!

[Troll Control]

How would Whooter know all of this unpublished information?

Whooter = John Reuben

NAILED!!!

Yes, he is.  I knew linking up his posts would reveal this information.  Just had to sort through it because the linked posts don't show in a search.

[Troll Control]

when people are angry at other people, they can make things up. max was angry at his dad for sending him to a school that robbed him of his youth and closure with his mother. It is equally as likely that he was directing his anger towards his dad and making things up, as it is that his dad was actually involved in his mother's death.

Does anyone know how long Max was away from HLA for his mothers funeral?  Was he forced to go?

3 Days maybe 4 I dont remember.  A family member an aunt I think picked him up and went back with him.  He wasnt forced to go, he was glad to get a break from that place.

Well, here's the conclusive proof that TheWho is either John Reuben or the most shameless liar of all time on Fornits, or both.  

Please explain to us, Whooter, how you are privy to the family information.  We're all ears.

Here's more of WHooter's detailed, unpublished information regarding Mike Reuben:

Prior to ASR  the father had Mike seen by a specialist in the field of addiction and he was referred to a Counselor who worked one on one with him.  As his grades continued to slip and his relationship with drugs became stronger he was recommended to ASR by The Director of Pediatrics at Children’s Hospital in Boston.
ASR was able to arrest his behavior, teach him to cope with himself and the problems that life will and has thrown at him and set him on a healthy path.  He graduated ASR, attended and graduated from college and continued his interest in Music and a made himself successful in a career in Sales.  He continued to struggle throughout his life with his addiction until it finally took his life.
As we all know addiction isn’t something that is cured but is a lifetime challenge and each person attempts to hold it at bay the best he can.  The road can be long and arduous and in many instances the road is short as it was for Mike.
Please be respectful of this boys life and struggles and don’t twist his story to make him a tool for your agenda.

How would Whooter know all of this unpublished information?

Whooter = John Reuben

Pinched.  Definitivey.

[Troll Control]

Whooter has told on himself.

when people are angry at other people, they can make things up. max was angry at his dad for sending him to a school that robbed him of his youth and closure with his mother. It is equally as likely that he was directing his anger towards his dad and making things up, as it is that his dad was actually involved in his mother's death.

Does anyone know how long Max was away from HLA for his mothers funeral?  Was he forced to go?

3 Days maybe 4 I dont remember.  A family member an aunt I think picked him up and went back with him.  He wasnt forced to go, he was glad to get a break from that place.

Well, here's the conclusive proof that TheWho is either John Reuben or the most shameless liar of all time on Fornits, or both.  

Please explain to us, Whooter, how you are privy to the family information.  We're all ears.

Here's more of WHooter's detailed, unpublished information regarding Mike Reuben:

Prior to ASR  the father had Mike seen by a specialist in the field of addiction and he was referred to a Counselor who worked one on one with him.  As his grades continued to slip and his relationship with drugs became stronger he was recommended to ASR by The Director of Pediatrics at Children’s Hospital in Boston.
ASR was able to arrest his behavior, teach him to cope with himself and the problems that life will and has thrown at him and set him on a healthy path.  He graduated ASR, attended and graduated from college and continued his interest in Music and a made himself successful in a career in Sales.  He continued to struggle throughout his life with his addiction until it finally took his life.
As we all know addiction isn’t something that is cured but is a lifetime challenge and each person attempts to hold it at bay the best he can.  The road can be long and arduous and in many instances the road is short as it was for Mike.
Please be respectful of this boys life and struggles and don’t twist his story to make him a tool for your agenda.

How would Whooter know all of this unpublished information?

Hmmmm.....  Getting more interesting as we go...

Funny.  I think most people know and have used the word "junkie" before.  I had never seen it spelled "junky" (when referring to a "junkie") before until today.

If you tie a junky to his bed for a couple of days to get him past the physical addiction is it considered cruel? If he comes thru it and says “Thank you man you saved my life, I owe you big time, my friend” is that worth it to both of you? Should you go to jail for restraining someone? Kidnapping? Torture?

That word appears nowhere else on this forum except that post.  But, it does appear elsewhere on the 'net...

Live Music Junky

...on John Reuben's MySpace page.

Also from John Reuben's MySpace page (from 2007, before Mike died, but after his wife, Lena, died):

John's Blurbs
About me:
I am 48, father of two older boys, runner, and live music lover. My tastes range mostly from blues to classic rock, to alternative. Recent shows: Everclear Peter Yorn Chicago Steely Dan Widespread Panic Eric Clapton Allman Brothers Sarah Borges Entrain Jeff Pitchell I see about 30-40 shows a year.  
Who I'd like to meet:
Hoping to meet someone I can share some time with and in particular, see sdome music with this summer.  

"Who" else on Fornits is a "Live Music Junky" that always talks about how many shows he sees?

I also noticed that he didn't say he is a "widower," he says he is "divorced."  Pretty creepy considering that other posters here who went to HLA with Max said that Max "blamed his father for his mother's death."

Children: I don't want kids

Yeah, no shit.  I think we knew that already.

Hometown: Philadelphia

"Who" else on Fornits is from Philly...?

I spent so much time sleeping in the streets around the spectrum in Philadelphia waiting for the ticket offices to open up that the homeless and I started to recognize and nod to each other. Ticket-tron was just getting started and they were only given a limited number of tickets to sell, so the only guarantee was the ticket office. Besides many other things I was a concert junkie.

I wont tell you my year of birth. But the concert was in the winter 1973, December I think, and it was at the Spectrum in Philadelphia. It was the Quadrophenia tour.

He does it "to get something positive out of this tragedy and let people know this happens in fortunate and unfortunate families, in Malden, Somerville, Sudbury and Los Angeles," he said.

Malden, eh?  I wonder "Who" else has posted from Malden here on Fornits...?

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Then we have Whooter posting from IP address (thanks for giving Psy permission to post these IP's Whooter.  It has been a big help to me!) 24.41.82.XXX.

And where does our handy little IP Locator put this IP address?  "Swampscott, MA."

Who might Whooter know in Swampscott, I wonder...?

Catherine Reuben!

Just "coincidences" I suppose...?

Whooter, or John, whichever you prefer, you are the biggest fucking phony liar I have ever had the displeasure to become acquainted with.

Boy, I guess that MCSE and research PhD did come in handy after all...

It has been fun, douche, but the game is over.  You've been outed for all eternity.