Cataloging TheWho/John Reuben's Lies

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Let's keep it short and go over just Whooter's lies from this thread.

Lie #1:  Whooter claims he never went to Chicago for a TTI meeting.
Truth #1:  Whooter had already bragged about it two years ago, but must have forgotten and was quoted saying he did indeed go to Chicago for a TTI meeting.  This was proven over Whooter's denials by simply quoting the post where he already admitted it.

Lie #2:  Whooter claims to be just a "regular parent with no ties to the industry."
Truth #2:  Whooter already admitted he was part of a "statistical group to assess TBS safety" that met in Chicago.  This was proven over Whooter's denials by simply quoting the post where he already admitted it.

Lie #3:  Whooter claims not be John Reuben.
Truth #3:  whooter has contacted at least one parent from this forum and provided her the email address "onekidatatime@yahoo.com" for her to contact him "outside of Fornits" because "everyone here has an agenda to discredit programs."  The email address has been verified to be that of John Reuben and is the admin email account at savingteens.org.  This was proven by posting the original PM from TheWho to Concerned Parent, which TheWho subsequently altered in a quote and copped to altering it when called out.

Lie #4:  RobertBruce is "Concerned Parent."
Truth #4:  Whooter dropped this claim and went on to blame someone else for being "Concerned Parent."  Interestingly enough, Whooter has actually claimed to BE RobertBruce many times and later copped to fabricating at least one "lookalike" RobertBruce login to try to impersonate him (the login he admitted to creating "for fun" was 'RobertBruce .' with a space and a period at the end).

Lie #5:  Ajax13 is "Concerned Parent."
Truth #5:  Ajax13 is not Concerned Parent, but Whooter clings to this meme like a life raft anyway.

Lie #6:  Ajax13 AND RobertBruce are "Concerned Parent."
Truth #6:  Both are provably NOT "Concerned Parent."  Whooter seems to have dropped this notion now because obviously they both couldn't be "Concerned Parent" at the same time, but that simple logic didn't stop him from floating it to distract from the conversation.

Lie #7:  Whooter claimed to have no criminal record when confronted.
Truth #7:  Whooter had already admitted years ago, on this board, that he was "arrested several times in Boston and once in Ann Arbor Michigan."

Lie #8:  Whooter claims not to have lied at all.
Truth #8:  Whooter has been caught lying like a rug using only his own posts and PMs as evidence of the lies.  Essentially, he lied about everything, then had to walk it all back piece by piece as he was caught again and again.  Now the only thing from the above list he won't cop to is being Reuben, but considering he lied about and was proven lying about the rest of the items in this thread, his  assertion is just him howling from being bitten so badly.

So, that's 8 full-fledged, lie-through-your-teeth prevarications offered by TheWho in just this single thread.  People should believe him for what reason now?

Sorry, Whooter, your lying chickens have come home to roost and nobody here believes anything you say anymore.  Better luck next time.

Let's take a deep breath and remind ourselves of who and what Whooter actually is before we go assigning any credibility to what he says.  Whooter lies like a rug.

[DannyB II]

Let's keep it short and go over just Whooter's lies from this thread.

Lie #1:  Whooter claims he never went to Chicago for a TTI meeting.
Truth #1:  Whooter had already bragged about it two years ago, but must have forgotten and was quoted saying he did indeed go to Chicago for a TTI meeting.  This was proven over Whooter's denials by simply quoting the post where he already admitted it.

Lie #2:  Whooter claims to be just a "regular parent with no ties to the industry."
Truth #2:  Whooter already admitted he was part of a "statistical group to assess TBS safety" that met in Chicago.  This was proven over Whooter's denials by simply quoting the post where he already admitted it.

Lie #3:  Whooter claims not be John Reuben.
Truth #3:  whooter has contacted at least one parent from this forum and provided her the email address "onekidatatime@yahoo.com" for her to contact him "outside of Fornits" because "everyone here has an agenda to discredit programs."  The email address has been verified to be that of John Reuben and is the admin email account at savingteens.org.  This was proven by posting the original PM from TheWho to Concerned Parent, which TheWho subsequently altered in a quote and copped to altering it when called out.

Lie #4:  RobertBruce is "Concerned Parent."
Truth #4:  Whooter dropped this claim and went on to blame someone else for being "Concerned Parent."  Interestingly enough, Whooter has actually claimed to BE RobertBruce many times and later copped to fabricating at least one "lookalike" RobertBruce login to try to impersonate him (the login he admitted to creating "for fun" was 'RobertBruce .' with a space and a period at the end).

Lie #5:  Ajax13 is "Concerned Parent."
Truth #5:  Ajax13 is not Concerned Parent, but Whooter clings to this meme like a life raft anyway.

Lie #6:  Ajax13 AND RobertBruce are "Concerned Parent."
Truth #6:  Both are provably NOT "Concerned Parent."  Whooter seems to have dropped this notion now because obviously they both couldn't be "Concerned Parent" at the same time, but that simple logic didn't stop him from floating it to distract from the conversation.

Lie #7:  Whooter claimed to have no criminal record when confronted.
Truth #7:  Whooter had already admitted years ago, on this board, that he was "arrested several times in Boston and once in Ann Arbor Michigan."

Lie #8:  Whooter claims not to have lied at all.
Truth #8:  Whooter has been caught lying like a rug using only his own posts and PMs as evidence of the lies.  Essentially, he lied about everything, then had to walk it all back piece by piece as he was caught again and again.  Now the only thing from the above list he won't cop to is being Reuben, but considering he lied about and was proven lying about the rest of the items in this thread, his  assertion is just him howling from being bitten so badly.

So, that's 8 full-fledged, lie-through-your-teeth prevarications offered by TheWho in just this single thread.  People should believe him for what reason now?

Sorry, Whooter, your lying chickens have come home to roost and nobody here believes anything you say anymore.  Better luck next time.

Let's take a deep breath and remind ourselves of who and what Whooter actually is before we go assigning any credibility to what he says.  Whooter lies like a rug.

DJ, your calling someone out on a arrest record of jay walking and civil disobedience, unlawful congregating/protesting. Why don't we pull up your criminal record prior to 18 yrs of age and after. I bet that would be interesting.
Who gives a rats ass what he is, Jesus freaking Christ DJ, you waste more space on this site with this stupid shit.
Like your everything you say you are, you were staff have you admitted to all your sins here on this site. NO!!!!!
Shit you were threatening to kick my ass about 2 months ago, telling me that you were 250lbs.Jujitsu fighter.
I have read your list of lies, psst.......Jeesh. Maybe just maybe you have been played.....sucker.....lol.
So please you phony fuck go find your truth and stop worrying about the rest of the population here.

Oh my, my "prevarications"  what a big word for you. Did you want to say lie but to impress your buddies around here, you have to be a wordsmith.
Well I can't judge you because I suffer from circumlocution.

I will say this DJ, if you were trying to discredit him, I don't think you have succeeded. What you have accomplished is showing everyone that you are fanatical idiot who likes terrorizing folks with skewed perceptions of the truth.

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Really, Danny?  Is your drug-addled little brain so feeble that you can't even keep track of whom you've been threatening with violence?  Let me refresh your memory:  You PMed me threatening me with violence.  Remember now?  You said you were going to be in my area around July 4th?  Ring a bell, wino?  Or were you drunk or mainlining the horse that day?  I simply responded to your threat of violence against me with a warning about what may potentially happen to you if you were to embark on your misguided mission of physically assaulting me, including the liklihood of your cranium ending up like a jigsaw puzzle; just a fair warning, not a threat.

Also, please don't confuse your being a "staff member" with my employ.  Danny, you were a junkie resident that was used as a tool to punish, threaten and commit violence against other residents, like when you dragged an adolescent girl on a rope behind your van, Jasper, Texas-style.  I, on the other hand, was a professional employee, you know, with an advanced college degree and duly licensed to facilitate therapy.  I don't have any "guilt" to "cop to," like you do, Danno.

And, no, it isn't my intent to discredit Whooter. He has already fully discredited himself many times over and I simply am pointing out, with links to his very own words, what he routinely lies about.

[Whooter]

Danny, this Dysfunction Junction guy has been blowing smoke up your rectum.  He never had any advanced degree.  When he was pushed out of Daytop and could not get another program job, because of background check requirements, he worked on computers after his unemployment ran out and states he "planned" on working on a degree.  The guys got more stories than J.D.’s got Salinger.  Just search “Daytop” under the name “dysfunction Junction”.  This forum is a good read sometimes and I like trying to figure out all the characters and why everyone is here.  Cannot figure out why whooter sits back and takes this trolls crap all the time.

[DannyB II]

Really, Danny?  Is your drug-addled little brain so feeble that you can't even keep track of whom you've been threatening with violence?  Let me refresh your memory:  You PMed me threatening me with violence.  Remember now?  You said you were going to be in my area around July 4th?  Ring a bell, wino?  Or were you drunk or mainlining the horse that day?  I simply responded to your threat of violence against me with a warning about what may potentially happen to you if you were to embark on your misguided mission of physically assaulting me, including the liklihood of your cranium ending up like a jigsaw puzzle; just a fair warning, not a threat.

DJ, if you could get over yourself long enough to really remember the circumstances, then you would remember you saying to me that someone should kick my ass, so I PM'ed you, to call you out. You then PM'ed me back to tell me that you are 250lbs and a MMF fighter, you fucking pussy. Now your right I will be in NYC in 2 days, you have my phone number lets discuss the rest then.
DJ I did not start this tuff talk and by your track record of talking tuff, you sound like one big pussy I would enjoy meeting in New York, so please call or SHUT YOUR MOUTH.
You talk shit/threaten me again and I will cash your ticket, that is a promise. I am done fucking with your candy ass shit.
 
Also, please don't confuse your being a "staff member" with my employ.  Danny, you were a junkie resident that was used as a tool to punish, threaten and commit violence against other residents, like when you dragged an adolescent girl on a rope behind your van, Jasper, Texas-style.  I, on the other hand, was a professional employee, you know, with an advanced college degree and duly licensed to facilitate therapy.  I don't have any "guilt" to "cop to," like you do, Danno.


Listen that is a education you recieved after you cleaned yourself up. Most of us did the same thing, I hold a Bachelors Degree of Business, so what. I own a medium size business. Trust me your still a idiot. Yes I was a junkie, wino, criminal, womanizer, gambler, drug dealer ect..... I have nothing to hide, son. That was then this is now and right now what the hell have you done with your silly life. Aside from hanging on Whooters ass.
So you were in Daytop. You must have a criminal record, drug history. You seemed to skip over answering that from my last post. I always find it amazing around here how everyone (members fornits) want to judge others for there past/present transgressions yet they don't want to disclose theirs. Which are usually worse then the person they are confronting.
You really believe DJ, that I dragged Mary O'brian behind a car, after everything I have written about her on this site. Your a sick, very sick man.
You were a professional employee.... :roflmao:  :roflmao:
So now were calling ourselves professionals, ya that makes the pill being swallowed go down so much easier.
DJ, this makes your bio, sound even worse. Like you actually knew that the abuse you were committing was wrong yet you continued to perpetrate upon the kids. That you literally understood intellectually the behavioral methods were constitutionally wrong.
So I would then have to ascertain that you are a Professional Psychotic Employee.  :poison:  :poison:  :poison:
You are a whack-job.  
DJ, my participation in the TTI is beyond your comprehension so I will not bore you. I am still involved but it is on the periphery.    


And, no, it isn't my intent to discredit Whooter. He has already fully discredited himself many times over and I simply am pointing out, with links to his very own words, what he routinely lies about.

DJ, you are sleeping.  Wake-up!!!!!!!!

[DannyB II]

Danny, this Dysfunction Junction guy has been blowing smoke up your rectum.  He never had any advanced degree.  When he was pushed out of Daytop and could not get another program job, because of background check requirements, he worked on computers after his unemployment ran out and states he "planned" on working on a degree.  The guys got more stories than J.D.’s got Salinger.  Just search “Daytop” under the name “dysfunction Junction”.  This forum is a good read sometimes and I like trying to figure out all the characters and why everyone is here.  Cannot figure out why whooter sits back and takes this trolls crap all the time.

Thanks for the heads up....I like Mitt also.

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Trust me your still a idiot.

 

 :rofl:   Wonderful command of the English language, Danno.  Bravo.  You sure sound like a college graduate.  And, no, I was never in Daytop, dummy.  I worked for Daytop.  It's called reading, Danny boy...Left to right, top to bottom.  A group of words makes up a sentence.  You ought to try it sometime.

[DannyB II]

Trust me your still a idiot.

 

 :rofl:   Wonderful command of the English language, Danno.  Bravo.  You sure sound like a college graduate.  And, no, I was never in Daytop, dummy.  I worked for Daytop.  It's called reading, Danny boy...Left to right, top to bottom.  A group of words makes up a sentence.  You ought to try it sometime.

 
This is it, your going to regurgitate what Anne says, well thank you very much. Ya kno what, I don't care about my reading, writing, sentences, grammar or spelling, you win...OK.  :roflmao:  :roflmao:
Well at least I am a college graduate you seem to lie about your creditials.
I can't believe that your a liar, you are that insecure about your personal value that you would lie to me. I am nobody, just some guy you read on a web site, dude grow up.
DJ this has been fun but it has to end now, I hope you find your way. Didn't you go to Straight.

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Oh, be still, my beating heart.  Danny is going to go away.  If only it were plausible...

Anyway, Danno, I haven't lied to you.  I just find it ironic that Whooter, using one of his many logins, Mitt Romney, actually just made up a shitpot of falsehoods and you ate it up, hook, line and sinker whilst never even being aware how Whooter is playing you like a fiddle and getting you to do and say the things his carefully crafted marketing persona ought not to say, lest his cover be blown.

Sadly, Danny, you're too ignorant even to realize you're a dupe.  Once more, let me reiterate, I was never a resident at any treatment facilities, TTI or conventional, community-based.  No matter how you struggle to fit me into that mold, it just isn't so (and, yes, before you ask again, this means I did not go to Straight).

I will offer you my CV just to avoid any further "misconceptions" on your part:

1992 BA, dual major, psychology and sociology, concentrations in early childhood development and juvenile delinquency, respectively.

1995 MSW

1998 MCSE (mostly worthless now, as this is a Windows NT certificate and is well outdated)

2005 MBA, Human Resources Management

2009 PhD, Economics (this is a research degree, I am not an economist)

I have been very fortunate to work for a great company who paid for my MBA and PhD.  All of my academic acheivements came after a felony arrest and conviction at the age of 19 under New York's draconian Rockefeller laws.  I was a sophomore living in a fraternity house with 50 other brothers and several of us were quite enterprising in selling all sorts of controlled substances to other college kids, but I was not a heavy user of hard drugs, preferring the typical pot and acid diet of a college kid.  I made a boatload of money, squirreled it away and subsequently spent it all, and then some, on my legal defense to insure I didn't get sent up for 25 years after four of us got pinched.  Instead I had to go through a state program called "Shock Camp" which is the typical model used at kiddie boot camps now - highly abusive, brutal and nearly totally ineffective at reducing recidivism.  I am happily married to a 5th grade school teacher and have one child, a baby girl, 5 months old today. I have posted this before and have always been 100% honest about it.  I doubt you'll get any such honesty from Whooter or any of his other personalities.

Are you happy now, Danny?  I hope so, because you are one miserable son of a bitch, boy.

[Pile of Dead Kids]

DJ, treating Whooter or Danny like human beings is a waste of time and forum space. You've been here for years. You *really* should know this by now.

[DannyB II]

"Dysfunction Junction" wrote:
Oh, be still, my beating heart.  Danny is going to go away.  If only it were plausible...

Nope......

Anyway, Danno, I haven't lied to you.  I just find it ironic that Whooter, using one of his many logins, Mitt Romney, actually just made up a shitpot of falsehoods and you ate it up, hook, line and sinker whilst never even being aware how Whooter is playing you like a fiddle and getting you to do and say the things his carefully crafted marketing persona ought not to say, lest his cover be blown.

I know it looks like I just fell off the turnip truck this afternoon, doesn't it. Welt, I didn't. Jeesh, is whooter really doing this all by himself, damn I never get to have any fun. Well somebody has to play the fiddle....lol.
I wonder who is dancing.
 

Sadly, Danny, you're too ignorant even to realize you're a dupe.

Well someone has to do it.
 

Once more, let me reiterate, I was never a resident at any treatment facilities, TTI or conventional, community-based.  No matter how you struggle to fit me into that mold, it just isn't so (and, yes, before you ask again, this means I did not go to Straight).

Yet you ended up in a boot camp/program for dealing dope. Your one of us, asshole.

I will offer you my CV just to avoid any further "misconceptions" on your part:
1992 BA, dual major, psychology and sociology, concentrations in early childhood development and juvenile delinquency, respectively.
1995 MSW
1998 MCSE (mostly worthless now, as this is a Windows NT certificate and is well outdated)
2005 MBA, Human Resources Management
2009 PhD, Economics (this is a research degree, I am not an economist)
I have been very fortunate to work for a great company who paid for my MBA and PhD.

I applaud your acheivements.

All of my academic acheivements came after a felony arrest and conviction at the age of 19 under New York's draconian Rockefeller laws.  I was a sophomore living in a fraternity house with 50 other brothers and several of us were quite enterprising in selling all sorts of controlled substances to other college kids, but I was not a heavy user of hard drugs, preferring the typical pot and acid diet of a college kid.  I made a boatload of money, squirreled it away and subsequently spent it all, and then some, on my legal defense to insure I didn't get sent up for 25 years after four of us got pinched.  Instead I had to go through a state program called "Shock Camp" which is the typical model used at kiddie boot camps now - highly abusive, brutal and nearly totally ineffective at reducing recidivism.

You were a dope fiend who was selling dope, not hard to explain. There are dope fiends and dope in college as much as there are in Benson Hurst.  You got popped and like everyone else around here your embarrassed/ashamed about your past so you want to play it down and blame it on draconian laws and bullshit bootcamps, well excuse me, most of the other members want to blame their past transgressions on their program experiences. Ya know they were perfectly adjusted children whose parents were conned over drinks one night into believing their kids are screwed, by the big bad TTI machine.  
You were selling dope, what the fuck do you think was supposed to be the consequences. Who gives a shit if you learned anything, in spite of yourself you did. I bet you never sold drugs again at school.

I am happily married to a 5th grade school teacher and have one child, a baby girl, 5 months old today.

Congrats, I have 2 children, much older.

I have posted this before and have always been 100% honest about it.  I doubt you'll get any such honesty from Whooter or any of his other personalities.

You both don't share honesty with one another.

Are you happy now, Danny?  I hope so, because you are one miserable son of a bitch, boy.

First off, I was happy before this post and will be after, in spite of this post.
Why am I a miserable SOB......lol.

[Whooter]

Leave it to Mitt Romney to dig out the truth.  Good for him.  So Danny when DJ told you he had advanced degrees when working for Daytop and HLA he was not being all together truthful with you.  Previous posts show he never had an advanced degree when working for a program.
In fact he edited his post from 2005 just today in an attempt to cover and alter previous statements.

Here take a look at the bottom of this post:

DJ's altered post

at the bottom of the post it says:

“Last edited by Dysfunction Junction on 30 Jun 2010, 20:30, edited 1 time in total.”

(The above edit occurred a half hour after he wrote his previous "education time line" post to you fyi)

He edited details to cover what he is saying today.  This is DJ’s MO and you will find he does this often when caught in a lie.

I really don’t mind DJ trolling me as he does because it is a reminder that I exposed him many times in the past.  As you have probably noticed here, Danny, I don’t argue much with DJ.  The reason is that I am a firm believer that those who work day and night solely to discredit others on an open forum usually have many skeletons in their own closet and always slip up as I showed you today.  I don’t want to put the guy down, he is probably a decent guy,  but If a person has to constantly go back and rewrite posts from 5 years ago just to cover statements he is saying today that shows a desperation that I cannot relate to.

Good luck with your discussion with him.  If you stick with the facts then he will never be able to keep up.  It is actually fun after awhile but I grew tired of him.



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Funny thing...My last name was posted in that post.  Thanks to Mitt, I read that and edited it out.  Nothing more, nothing less.  Just a post (among a few) left over from a time before I knew posting that information here was a bad idea.  Thanks, Mitt, for pointing me at it.  Much appreciated.

[Whooter]

Funny thing...My last name was posted in that post.  Thanks to Mitt, I read that and edited it out.  Nothing more, nothing less.  Just a post (among a few) left over from a time before I knew posting that information here was a bad idea.  Thanks, Mitt, for pointing me at it.  Much appreciated.

Wow, that was a poor attempt, you used that excuse several times, DJ, (its getting old).  You were caught plain and simple and your back peddling is getting old too.  It came right after Mitt called you on your education lie.  Your last name isnt in the database you searched for that years ago on previous edits. lol.
Just admit to Danny that you didnt have an advanced degree while working at Daytop and HLA.  Its so sad to continuously watch you try to back out of your own statements.



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Lols.  No proof, no quotes as usual.  I completed my masters while working at HLA and worked at Daytop after that.  Oops, there goes your "educational timeline."  

Since you claim to have access to kids' treatment records from HLA (you said you had a copy of RobertBruce's treatment plan for "gay issues" and could prove he went there for only a few weeks - you never delivered, just slandered). I guess your sources could easily supply you with my employee file.  I'll wait for you to post it.