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Darckenu Israel - new wilderness program abroad
« on: November 08, 2010, 09:26:14 AM »
Homepage of the program

38 days program taking place in the Israeli desert. It was not much we could add about it on the Wiki.
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Re: Darckenu Israel - new wilderness program abroad
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2010, 10:11:06 AM »
From their homepage; colored emphasis as per the original:


    ...we gently steer them to discover their own abilities to make valuable choices and reinforce their self image.[/list]

    Darckenu(*) Israel offers a 38 days' wilderness program in Israel for troubled teens guiding them to overcome emotional hardships, social issues, substance abuse and typical teenage behavioral challenges.

    The program is simultaneously designed to lead parents to effective parenthood.
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    Re: Darckenu Israel - new wilderness program abroad
    « Reply #2 on: November 08, 2010, 10:21:09 AM »
    Any chance of learning who owns the web site?
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    Darckenu Israel - "Our way of doing things"
    « Reply #3 on: November 08, 2010, 10:28:39 AM »
    More:


      Our way of doing things

      • Conduct the program in Israel, away from your natural environment and allow you to open a new beginning, while being exposed to the traditions, roots and history of the Jewish people in its promised land.
      • Emphasize the central role parents should play in their childrens' lives and the importance of 'family' as a basis for the kind of values parents would like to equip their children with.
      • Lead your children (and you too, a little...) in the Israeli desert to experience the associated physical and emotional challenges and overcome them individually and together.
      • Provide individual support and empathy throughout the program while setting clear boundaries and expectations.
      [/li][/list]
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      Darckenu Israel - "Our program"
      « Reply #4 on: November 08, 2010, 10:35:57 AM »
      Some more:


        Our program

        The young adults who walk the Darckenau trail face a series of physical and emotional challenges throughout their journey, and are guided to success with our consistent instruction and presence.

        We teach, comfort and motivate them to explore their inner strength and develop sufficient confidence in their abilities. In the process, we gently steer them to discover their own abilities to make valuable choices and reinforce their self image. Parents are categorically an integrated part of this process.[/list]
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        Darckenu Israel - "Our team"
        « Reply #5 on: November 08, 2010, 10:45:02 AM »
        And finally, yet some more:


          Our team

          Led by Irit Abir, Shaul Abir and Einat Tzuk, professionals with extensive experience in training, counseling and education programs with youth at risk, Darckenau Israel trail guides are all young Israelis with a sense of mission and purpose.

          Their past service in the Israeli Defense Forces, as commanders in a variety of elite units, is part of what defines their endless motivation to work with adolescence towards desired goals.[/list]
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          registrant info / whois for darckenu-israel.com
          « Reply #6 on: November 08, 2010, 10:49:51 AM »
          Quote from: "BuzzKill"
          Any chance of learning who owns the web site?
          Registrant info and WHOIS results for darckenu-israel.com from NetworkSolutions.com:


            Current Registrar:      GODADDY.COM, INC.
            IP Address:    62.219.7.10 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
            Lock Status:    clientDeleteProhibited

            Registrant:
              irit abir
              box 127 ha'oren 11 st.
              timrat,  36576
              Israel

              Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (
            http://www.godaddy.com)
            Domain Name: DARCKENU-ISRAEL.COM
              Created on: 31-Aug-10
              Expires on: 31-Aug-12
              Last Updated on: 04-Nov-10
            Administrative Contact:
              abir, irit  
            [email protected]
            box 127 ha'oren 11 st.
            timrat,  36576
            Israel
            97246545567      Fax -- [/list]
            Domain servers in listed order:
              DNS1.NETWORKPROTECTED.NET
              DNS2.NETWORKPROTECTED.NET
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            Re: Darckenu Israel - new wilderness program abroad
            « Reply #7 on: November 08, 2010, 10:55:51 AM »
            This program would be a real punishment for Palestinian kids.
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            Re: Darckenu Israel - new wilderness program abroad
            « Reply #8 on: November 08, 2010, 11:38:12 AM »
            :cheers: my thoughts exactly :roflmao:
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            Re: Darckenu Israel - new wilderness program abroad
            « Reply #9 on: November 08, 2010, 11:52:29 AM »
            Quote from: "seamus"
            :cheers: my thoughts exactly :roflmao:

             :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
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            Re: Darckenu Israel - new wilderness program abroad
            « Reply #10 on: November 08, 2010, 12:13:42 PM »
            Inculcating a values system into a populace that increases the likelihood of their following the dictates of government, military, or corporate interests is best, or perhaps, more easily achieved whilst said populace is still in their formative years.
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            Re: Darckenu Israel - new wilderness program abroad
            « Reply #11 on: November 08, 2010, 01:28:07 PM »
            It seems that some part of their population want to maintain a certain rather old-fashioned model of parent - child interaction. I happened to see one episode of The world strictest parents where two British teenagers were sent to Israel to live with a local family according to their standards. Their guidelines for covering the girls up was not so far away from the standards in Iran.

            Especially the British girl crumpled due to the harsh culture down there and it was only for a week.
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            Re: Darckenu Israel - "Our team"
            « Reply #12 on: November 08, 2010, 01:42:24 PM »
            Quote from: "Ursus"
            And finally, yet some more:


              Our team

              Led by Irit Abir, Shaul Abir and Einat Tzuk, professionals with extensive experience in training, counseling and education programs with youth at risk, Darckenau Israel trail guides are all young Israelis with a sense of mission and purpose.

              I wonder what that experience entails?  Are there any degreed counselors there?

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              Their past service in the Israeli Defense Forces, as commanders in a variety of elite units, is part of what defines their endless motivation to work with adolescence towards desired goals.[/list]

              Ah!  There's one question answered and a definite red flag raised. (Nothing to do with Israelis per se....just seems that a lot of these military types think they can "help" kids and create a mini boot camp.)
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              Irit and Shaul Abir; another enterprise
              « Reply #13 on: November 08, 2010, 02:04:43 PM »
              Re. another enterprise of the Abirs, out of which Darckenu Israel probably evolved:

              Irit and Shaul Abir are a husband and wife team who offer "experiential workshops" to singles, couples, families, youth groups, schools, businesses, etc. on a variety of topics which could broadly be described as focused on "ethical" or "productive living." Perhaps I am overreaching myself with that impression. Perhaps it would be safer to suggest that the Abirs run some kind of "life coaching" business.

              From two pages on their website:


                IRIT AND SHAUL ABIR, Workshop Trainers

                Irit Abit, BA in Social Sciences and Humanities, MBA, Group Leader Program graduate, extensive experience in leading workshops in interpersonal communication, parenting, couple relationships, and improvement of service in organizations.

                Shaul Abir, BA in Psychology, advanced studies in organizational psychology and coping with high-pressure situations, extensive experience in consulting, in leading workshops in the areas of management, leadership, team development and human resource systems development, and in training both in Israel and in many countries worldwide.

                Both Irit and Shaul lead workshops in various fields and are also active in divorce mediation.

                We are married and have six children.

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                APPLIED INTERPERSONAL COMMUNICATION

                Interpersonal communication is the foundation of every relationship between human beings.

                Our communications are replete with subjective, sometimes unconscious interpretations that we perceive as "reality." With the aid of simple, relevant tools we can make our communications effective and useful.

                One way or another, everything we do touches on interpersonal communication and the ability to use it more successfully.

                We devote considerable attention to making our workshops practical and applicable for the participants.[/list]
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                Re: Darckenu Israel - new wilderness program abroad
                « Reply #14 on: November 09, 2010, 05:12:04 AM »
                Interesting. I've noticed there's no Hebrew version of the site-- probably sticking to recruiting foreigners. I wonder where this thing is located (there are plenty of places that can be described as "desert", and you can't expect a foreigner to know when he's in the actual desert or not).
                As for the instructors being ex-military people-- everybody here is ex-military. And the military culture is different from the US military. Knowing what units these guys/girls come from can tell a lot about who you're dealing with. Btw-- the law here requires armed escorts during school trips.

                I don't think this thing's going to last long.
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