Many Many Programs Abuse Kids

[SUCK_IT]

Only we're not kidding.  It's not that big of a deal if you had three kids in programs or only two but I have no idea why you would start saying this now after telling us about the two boys only.  So if I read correctly you had three of your kids in programs and not just the boys.

No, I didnt have any boys in programs nor did I ever say that I did.  I had a daughter who attended ASR and SUWS.  I hope that clears it up.



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It doesn't though.  I have read several posts here also that you were saying wilderness was good for your "son" not daughter.  Since you also told us that you had two sons in programs that made sense to me but now you're saying you also had a daughter in two programs when before you said that both your boys went to two programs each.  Now you're saying you had three kids going to six programs.  I'm fine with that because it just shows your a great parent but why not just say it up front is what I'm wondering.

[Whooter]

Only we're not kidding.  It's not that big of a deal if you had three kids in programs or only two but I have no idea why you would start saying this now after telling us about the two boys only.  So if I read correctly you had three of your kids in programs and not just the boys.

No, I didnt have any boys in programs nor did I ever say that I did.  I had a daughter who attended ASR and SUWS.  I hope that clears it up.



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It doesn't though.  I have read several posts here also that you were saying wilderness was good for your "son" not daughter.  Since you also told us that you had two sons in programs that made sense to me but now you're saying you also had a daughter in two programs when before you said that both your boys went to two programs each.  Now you're saying you had three kids going to six programs.  I'm fine with that because it just shows your a great parent but why not just say it up front is what I'm wondering.

Wow 6 programs now!  Ha,Ha,Ha.  Why not toss the link up and we can take a look at what I said.  



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[SUCK_IT]

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Speaking of wilderness programs and sex, it happens all the time... at least when I was there it did. Its not like they handed out condoms so I wouldn't be surprised if some of the girls go home from wilderness with a whole new set of issues brewing inside them. I never saw a wild tribe like orgy until I was in wilderness, and don't think the staff don't join in. Parents have no idea what happens out there, it was insane.

Thanks guest,I knew it wasnt as bad as people were saying here.  The kids do have fun on these trips, I kind of thought that.

Your welcome, my son really liked it and would like to become a counselor some day which has motivated him to study harder.

it says your son not daughter was in wilderness and wanted to become a counselor which is great but you dod say son and not daughter.

[Anne Bonney]

What happened Whooter?  You deleted your post so quickly, but I had already begun to respond to it so here it is in all it's glory.

Second, I'm not embellishing by saying that there were guards at the door and the windows were nailed shut. It's absolutely true. My father is just as guilty of it as the rest of the parents.

I know for a fact that you are lying again, Anne. I walked over to several windows in ASR and I just opened them. It was very easy.  The windows in my daughters dorm room were not looked either.  There was no evidence that they were ever nailed shut.   As I walked around the campus there were no guards to keep the kids on the property.  There is a general store about a mile away.

Once again, you're purposely twisting my words.  I was speaking of my experience at Straight and why I believed the kids who told me that the same types of things are still going on at different programs now.  Not once did I say that ASR nailed windows shut or that there were guards on the property....but you knew that.

You keep blaming your father for stuff, you are grown up now, Anne, straight is closed the world is changing.

I put the blame for what happened to me in Straight right where it lies....with Straight itself and my father.  Even he has begun to understand the damage he and it did to me and feels pretty damn badly about it now.

What are you doing at ASR if you don't work for Aspen?  Perhaps that's why you deleted the post so quickly.  Another slip that shows you for the shill you are?

If you are talking about straight then say:  "35 years ago in a place called straight that is closed now......"  You dont do that you speak like you are referring to all programs.

I do.  I talk about my experience in Straight and how similar it is to what I'm hearing kids talk about now coming out of programs and I point that out.  C'mon....you know this.

What do you mean what was I doing at ASR?  You know my daughter went there.

Yes, but you said "I walked over to several windows in ASR and I just opened them.".  That implies that you are at ASR now.

I'd still like to know why you deleted your post so quickly, but somehow I doubt I'll get a real answer.  Just like the son/daughter issue.

[Anne Bonney]

http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=28642&p=344767#p344767

Speaking of wilderness programs and sex, it happens all the time... at least when I was there it did. Its not like they handed out condoms so I wouldn't be surprised if some of the girls go home from wilderness with a whole new set of issues brewing inside them. I never saw a wild tribe like orgy until I was in wilderness, and don't think the staff don't join in. Parents have no idea what happens out there, it was insane.

Thanks guest,I knew it wasnt as bad as people were saying here.  The kids do have fun on these trips, I kind of thought that.

Your welcome, my son really liked it and would like to become a counselor some day which has motivated him to study harder.

it says your son not daughter was in wilderness and wanted to become a counselor which is great but you dod say son and not daughter.

Uh oh!

 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rocker:  :rocker:  :rocker:  :rocker:  :rocker:  :rocker:

[SUCK_IT]

Will you give the man a second, Anne?  he just said to pu tup the link where he said his son was at wilderness and it's right here.  he said he sent his son to second Nature and he really liked it and wanted to become a counselor.  He'll explain it to you.

http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=28642&p=344767#p344767

Speaking of wilderness programs and sex, it happens all the time... at least when I was there it did. Its not like they handed out condoms so I wouldn't be surprised if some of the girls go home from wilderness with a whole new set of issues brewing inside them. I never saw a wild tribe like orgy until I was in wilderness, and don't think the staff don't join in. Parents have no idea what happens out there, it was insane.

Thanks guest,I knew it wasnt as bad as people were saying here.  The kids do have fun on these trips, I kind of thought that.

Your welcome, my son really liked it and would like to become a counselor some day which has motivated him to study harder.

it says your son not daughter was in wilderness and wanted to become a counselor which is great but you dod say son and not daughter.

[Anne Bonney]

Will you give the man a second, Anne?  he just said to pu tup the link where he said his son was at wilderness and it's right here.  he said he sent his son to second Nature and he really liked it and wanted to become a counselor.  He'll explain it to you.

Oh, I'm sure he will.  I have to give the man credit where credit is due.....he's a bullshit artist extraordinaire...i.e. marketer and he's damn good at it.  We've been through this countless times with him.  I'm just waiting to see what the excuse is this time.

[Whooter]

Will you give the man a second, Anne?  he just said to pu tup the link where he said his son was at wilderness and it's right here.  he said he sent his son to second Nature and he really liked it and wanted to become a counselor.  He'll explain it to you.

http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=28642&p=344767#p344767

Speaking of wilderness programs and sex, it happens all the time... at least when I was there it did. Its not like they handed out condoms so I wouldn't be surprised if some of the girls go home from wilderness with a whole new set of issues brewing inside them. I never saw a wild tribe like orgy until I was in wilderness, and don't think the staff don't join in. Parents have no idea what happens out there, it was insane.

Thanks guest,I knew it wasnt as bad as people were saying here.  The kids do have fun on these trips, I kind of thought that.

Your welcome, my son really liked it and would like to become a counselor some day which has motivated him to study harder.

it says your son not daughter was in wilderness and wanted to become a counselor which is great but you dod say son and not daughter.

Ha,Ha,Ha  I remember that one.  I was being trolled pretty good.  Everyone thought this poster "Worried Anne" was me trolling so they were giving her a hard time.  So I posted to even the scales a bit.  Read the whole thread its only two pages.



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[Anne Bonney]

Ha,Ha,Ha  I remember that one.  I was being trolled pretty good.  Everyone thought this poster "Worried Anne" was me trolling so they were giving her a hard time.  So I posted to even the scales a bit.  Read the whole thread its only two pages.

At least this excuse was original.  Still bullshit though.  You can always tell when someone's hit a nerve with you....the "Ha,Ha,Ha"s come out.

Seriously though, why did you delete that post upthread so quickly?

[Whooter]

I do.  I talk about my experience in Straight and how similar it is to what I'm hearing kids talk about now coming out of programs and I point that out.  C'mon....you know this.

Sometimes you write things that occurred in straight and you make it seem like they happened today.

What do you mean what was I doing at ASR?  You know my daughter went there.

Yes, but you said "I walked over to several windows in ASR and I just opened them.".  That implies that you are at ASR now.

I'd still like to know why you deleted your post so quickly, but somehow I doubt I'll get a real answer.  Just like the son/daughter issue.

Oh, I see what you mean,  no I remember opening windows because it was stuffy in there.  I like having lots of air and dont like closed windows (unless it is really cold out).

I deleted the post because I wanted to add another thought to it.  



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[SUCK_IT]

Ha,Ha,Ha  I remember that one.  I was being trolled pretty good.  Everyone thought this poster "Worried Anne" was me trolling so they were giving her a hard time.  So I posted to even the scales a bit.  Read the whole thread its only two pages.



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I just read the whole thread and it looks like you posting as a guest and quoting yourself so you could then talk about how good your son did in his program, which I understand, your son did great and you want to brag and tell the haters their wrong.  But if you want to talk about how good he did why not just say that up front too.   I didn't see any trolling in that thread just some talking about second Nature and then you said your son loved it there.  I would be proud of it too if I had three successful program grad kids.

[Whooter]

See how they ridiculed this poor woman and her story?  Posters here pretended to know her son and they said they were in the program with her son and told her that he was gay.  You people were bashing a survivor and his parents.  You chased her off so I stepped in to even the score so to speak.  At least I wasnt being hurtful and cruel like you guys were.



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[SUCK_IT]

What do you mean by even the score?  I only tell the truth about my experiences.  Who needs to even a score about their truth?  You admitted your son was at second Nature on your own nobody forced you to say it.  There's nothing wrong with Wilderness, you sent your son there as you said in that post and you should be proud of it not trying to make up some story that you were only faking having a happy son in wilderness when it's obviously a true story.  99% of boys sent to wilderness thrive and get back on track like your son.

See how they ridiculed this poor woman and her story?  Posters here pretended to know her son and they said they were in the program with her son and told her that he was gay.  You people were bashing a survivor and his parents.  You chased her off so I stepped in to even the score so to speak.  At least I wasnt being hurtful and cruel like you guys were.



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[Anne Bonney]

I do.  I talk about my experience in Straight and how similar it is to what I'm hearing kids talk about now coming out of programs and I point that out.  C'mon....you know this.

Sometimes you write things that occurred in straight and you make it seem like they happened today.

Some of them are.  Like the LGATs and attack 'therapy', but they were just called something different in Straight.  But then again, that's what programs do.....just change the names but the methods are basically the same.  Or, they get shut down for abuse then re-open under a different name.

What do you mean what was I doing at ASR?  You know my daughter went there.

Yes, but you said "I walked over to several windows in ASR and I just opened them.".  That implies that you are at ASR now.

I'd still like to know why you deleted your post so quickly, but somehow I doubt I'll get a real answer.  Just like the son/daughter issue.

Oh, I see what you mean,  no I remember opening windows because it was stuffy in there.  I like having lots of air and dont like closed windows (unless it is really cold out).

Riiiiiiiiiiight.

I deleted the post because I wanted to add another thought to it.  

But you didn't.  You posted something completely different.  If you just wanted to "add another thought to it", you'd have just edited it.  One of these days you're gonna spin so hard and so fast that you'll actually take flight.  

[Whooter]

What do you mean by even the score?  I only tell the truth about my experiences.  Who needs to even a score about their truth?  You admitted your son was at second Nature on your own nobody forced you to say it.  There's nothing wrong with Wilderness, you sent your son there as you said in that post and you should be proud of it not trying to make up some story that you were only faking having a happy son in wilderness when it's obviously a true story.  99% of boys sent to wilderness thrive and get back on track like your son.

See how they ridiculed this poor woman and her story?  Posters here pretended to know her son and they said they were in the program with her son and told her that he was gay.  You people were bashing a survivor and his parents.  You chased her off so I stepped in to even the score so to speak.  At least I wasnt being hurtful and cruel like you guys were.



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I just felt bad for this woman and her son.  She was new here and being honest and what did she get?  A bunch of posters here calling her son gay and a loser.  She was chased off and I jumped in to even the score.
I would probably do it again if the circumstances were the same.



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