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Re: Public School and Program Abuse
« Reply #150 on: November 29, 2010, 11:26:26 PM »
Yet each day goes by without you being able to answer the questions put to you. As I mentioned earlier you can continue to play this game so long as you like, no one is buying it and I won't get bored.
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Re: Public School and Program Abuse
« Reply #151 on: November 30, 2010, 08:58:12 AM »
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As I mentioned earlier you can continue ......

Thanks, Bruce,  if you come across any news articles on your end just toss them up here and we can take a look.

November 29, 2010

Former Manassas teacher and convicted sex offender Kevin Ricks was indicted Wednesday in Maryland on charges that he sexually abused a German foreign exchange student there in 2004, the latest criminal case to arise from more than three decades of reported abuse.

A Caroline County grand jury charged Ricks with seven counts, including providing alcohol to a minor, child pornography production and sexual contact with someone who is incapacitated. The charges carry a potential maximum combined sentence of more than 100 years in prison.

The charges stem from alleged abuse that occurred in Ricks's Federalsburg home after a night of heavy drinking with high school boys - abuse that Ricks recorded on video and in photographs, authorities said.

Ricks, 50, a former English teacher at Osbourn High School, is serving a one-year sentence in Manassas for molesting a 16-year-old boy there. Although that term is to end Dec. 24, Ricks almost certainly will not be released because, in addition to the Maryland case, he faces sex and pornography charges in North Carolina and in federal court in Alexandria.

"I think the citizens of this county . . . were all victims of this guy's scam as much as anyone else, even if they didn't become physical victims themselves," said Caroline State's Attorney Jonathan Newell.

"I think everyone's sort of devastated that someone from another country would trust their child to come here and be taken care of, and instead had their worst nightmare take place."

It was the Manassas abuse, discovered in February, that exposed Ricks's secret life. After he was arrested, police searched his home and found journals and a trove of photographs and videos of him in encounters with boys.

The apparent abuse of the German student, who was living with Ricks, was reported in a Washington Post investigation in July. The student told The Post that he had passed out and did not remember what happened but felt that something wasn't right the next morning.

Ricks, who pleaded guilty to abusing the Manassas boy, has said that he is not a predator. At his divorce hearing last week in Maryland, he said by phone from jail that he had never done anything more than "consensual touching" and had never been unfaithful to his wife. Authorities say that the evidence they have contradicts those statements and indicates a pattern of stalking, obsession and abuse.

Two high school students who were at Ricks's home the day the German student says he was abused said they spent the afternoon in Ricks's back yard, staging photographs in the snow and pretending they were at the beach. Some of the photos depict them shirtless and lying on towels.

Then came the drinking.

Brady Clark, 23, said that Ricks provided Jose Cuervo tequila and that the students sat at the dining room table and drank to the point of vomiting. Clark, whose family was close with Ricks, went to sleep in a guest house, and the exchange student stayed inside with Ricks.

Several of Ricks's alleged victims have said he plied them with tequila. A Japanese boy said he was made to drink tequila on a trip with Ricks to the United States in 1994; a Danish foreign exchange student said he did tequila shots with Ricks the night Ricks took graphic photos of him while passed out in Danville, Va., in 1999. Ricks provided the Manassas boy with tequila shots before molesting him.

Clark said he knew nothing of the abuse until after Ricks was arrested. Now, Clark said he thinks Ricks used him to get to his friends and to get closer to the exchange students Ricks hosted.

"I feel like a tool he used, that I was manipulated just like everyone else was," Clark said. "He comes across as a caring person, but when you get down to it, he's a very selfish person."

The German student said he became uncomfortable with Ricks almost immediately after arriving in 2003. Ricks demanded hugs each night before bed and later used electronic spy programs to look in on his e-mail. The student ultimately went to his foreign exchange company for help. The company removed him and barred Ricks from hosting students.

But Ricks continued to stalk him, the student said. School records obtained by The Post indicate that Ricks was banned from school property in April 2004.

Ricks then got another teenager to videotape the German student playing tennis at the high school, prompting the student to seek a restraining order in court. The court declined the order because the student did not have the evidence police now do.

The Post typically does not identify victims in sexual assault cases.


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Re: Public School and Program Abuse
« Reply #152 on: November 30, 2010, 09:27:57 AM »
None of this has to do with the TTI.  It's all distraction away from what goes on in programs that use LGAT-type methods.  The entire point of the title of this thread is a distraction.
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Re: Public School and Program Abuse
« Reply #153 on: November 30, 2010, 09:41:44 AM »
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None of this has to do with the TTI.  It's all distraction away from what goes on in programs that use LGAT-type methods.  The entire point of the title of this thread is a distraction.

 Interesting, so you dont feel kids get abused in programs?  I have read here that abuse does occur in programs from time to time and is critical to report it here on fornits.  As these reports come in we can post them in this thread.



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Re: Public School and Program Abuse
« Reply #154 on: November 30, 2010, 11:48:20 AM »
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None of this has to do with the TTI.  It's all distraction away from what goes on in programs that use LGAT-type methods.  The entire point of the title of this thread is a distraction.

 Interesting, so you dont feel kids get abused in programs?  I have read here that abuse does occur in programs from time to time and is critical to report it here on fornits.  As these reports come in we can post them in this thread.


Oh bite me.  Twisting what I'm saying again.  You're trying to equate public schools with programs.  Apples - Oranges.
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« Reply #155 on: November 30, 2010, 11:58:40 AM »
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None of this has to do with the TTI.  It's all distraction away from what goes on in programs that use LGAT-type methods.  The entire point of the title of this thread is a distraction.

 Interesting, so you dont feel kids get abused in programs?  I have read here that abuse does occur in programs from time to time and is critical to report it here on fornits.  As these reports come in we can post them in this thread.


Oh bite me.  Twisting what I'm saying again.  You're trying to equate public schools with programs.  Apples - Oranges.

Apples and Apples.  As problems occur in programs we can post them here also.  This is not restricted to just Public school abuse.



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Re: Public School and Program Abuse
« Reply #156 on: November 30, 2010, 12:19:34 PM »
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None of this has to do with the TTI.  It's all distraction away from what goes on in programs that use LGAT-type methods.  The entire point of the title of this thread is a distraction.

 Interesting, so you dont feel kids get abused in programs?  I have read here that abuse does occur in programs from time to time and is critical to report it here on fornits.  As these reports come in we can post them in this thread.


Oh bite me.  Twisting what I'm saying again.  You're trying to equate public schools with programs.  Apples - Oranges.

Apples and Apples.  As problems occur in programs we can post them here also.  This is not restricted to just Public school abuse.

You're still trying to compare them and they aren't comparable in any way.  Public schools don't isolate kids from the outside world.
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« Reply #157 on: November 30, 2010, 12:24:14 PM »
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None of this has to do with the TTI.  It's all distraction away from what goes on in programs that use LGAT-type methods.  The entire point of the title of this thread is a distraction.

 Interesting, so you dont feel kids get abused in programs?  I have read here that abuse does occur in programs from time to time and is critical to report it here on fornits.  As these reports come in we can post them in this thread.


Oh bite me.  Twisting what I'm saying again.  You're trying to equate public schools with programs.  Apples - Oranges.

Apples and Apples.  As problems occur in programs we can post them here also.  This is not restricted to just Public school abuse.

You're still trying to compare them and they aren't comparable in any way.  Public schools don't isolate kids from the outside world.

Of course they do!  Ever try to walk up to one during the day and walk in?  Public schools house kids and so do programs.  Kids are susceptible to abuse practically everywhere they go and it is important to compare them, find the dangerous areas and report on them.



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Re: Public School and Program Abuse
« Reply #158 on: November 30, 2010, 12:29:19 PM »
Whooter, you lying, asinine, child-abusing-for-profit twit, you do nothing but trumpet your ignorance and downright stupidity.

Comparing the "isolation" of a public school to a teen torture gulag is like comparing an appendectomy to assault and battery.

Again, you illustrate, far better than anyone else could, just what an ignorant, idiotic, callous, child-abusing prick you are.

Oh yeah----go eat a bag of dicks.  Eat ALL the dicks.
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« Reply #159 on: November 30, 2010, 12:37:06 PM »
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Whooter, you lying, asinine, child-abusing-for-profit twit, you do nothing but trumpet your ignorance and downright stupidity.

Comparing the "isolation" of a public school to a teen torture gulag is like comparing an appendectomy to assault and battery.

Again, you illustrate, far better than anyone else could, just what an ignorant, idiotic, callous, child-abusing prick you are.

Oh yeah----go eat a bag of dicks.  Eat ALL the dicks.

Exactly, it seems the so called isolation is proving to be safer from the predators.  Programs are so structured that there is very little opportunity for predators to take advantage of these kids.  Whereas in public school the predators can take advantage of kids whose parents are both working and the kids have tons of free time.  This has been shown over and over again here.

Ha,Ha,Ha  I like that expression!





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« Reply #160 on: November 30, 2010, 12:51:08 PM »
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Of course they do!  Ever try to walk up to one during the day and walk in?  Public schools house kids and so do programs.  Kids are susceptible to abuse practically everywhere they go and it is important to compare them, find the dangerous areas and report on them.

Kids in public schools go home at night.  They aren't restricted to whom they're allowed to speak to.  They have a degree of freedom.  Kids in programs have none.
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« Reply #161 on: November 30, 2010, 02:11:47 PM »
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Of course they do!  Ever try to walk up to one during the day and walk in?  Public schools house kids and so do programs.  Kids are susceptible to abuse practically everywhere they go and it is important to compare them, find the dangerous areas and report on them.

Kids in public schools go home at night.  They aren't restricted to whom they're allowed to speak to.  They have a degree of freedom.  Kids in programs have none.

Exactly, Anne, some of these kids go home to empty houses where both parents work.  Predators take advantage of this.  In programs the kids time is so structured that there is not much room for predators to take advantage of them.



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« Reply #162 on: November 30, 2010, 02:31:32 PM »
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Of course they do!  Ever try to walk up to one during the day and walk in?  Public schools house kids and so do programs.  Kids are susceptible to abuse practically everywhere they go and it is important to compare them, find the dangerous areas and report on them.

Kids in public schools go home at night.  They aren't restricted to whom they're allowed to speak to.  They have a degree of freedom.  Kids in programs have none.

Exactly, Anne, some of these kids go home to empty houses where both parents work.  Predators take advantage of this.  In programs the kids time is so structured that there is not much room for predators to take advantage of them.

Or to have a single thought of their own.  Or to take a shit without being monitored.  Or to write a letter to a friend.  Or to watch a movie.  

So what now......are you advocating that all kids with working parents consider shipping their kids off to ensure their "safety"?

You really are so over the top it's unbelievable.


Edited to add:  It sounds like your "reasoning" for not allowing an abuse hotline in programs......the hotline operator might talk dirty to them.   ::)
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« Reply #163 on: November 30, 2010, 03:07:57 PM »
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Or to have a single thought of their own.  Or to take a shit without being monitored.  Or to write a letter to a friend.  Or to watch a movie.  

I am sorry this happened to you.  Its a good thing they have programs now where you dont have to endure that.

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So what now......are you advocating that all kids with working parents consider shipping their kids off to ensure their "safety"?

No,only as a last resort.  I think we covered that.



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Edited to add:  It sounds like your "reasoning" for not allowing an abuse hotline in programs......the hotline operator might talk dirty to them.   ::)

Ha,Ha,Ha  Thats funny, I remember that.



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« Reply #164 on: November 30, 2010, 03:36:05 PM »
Programs are a child predator's dream.  They get to have complete control over the kids they want to abuse and can even force them into isolation where it's the kid's word against theirs about what happened.  Most programs don't even do background checks on employees and hire bottom-of-the-barrel line staff that they cvall "counselors."

One program was opened by a pedophile and was given the Struggling Teens' "stamp of approval" after a visit and glowing review on the website.  The only problem was that the program owner was raping all the little girls in his care and was, after years of doing this, arrested and charged with over 120 counts of child sex abuse.

Yep, for a child predator, the Program is the place to be.
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