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Re: Public School and Program Abuse
« Reply #225 on: December 23, 2010, 02:34:20 PM »
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They can be found everywhere, Bruce! Not many people on fornits like them because the analogy makes a point that they dont like.


Or because they are pointless and off base.
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« Reply #226 on: December 24, 2010, 07:44:48 AM »
Just in:

December 23, 2010

DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — A former Des Moines teacher has been arrested for allegedly having sex with a student.

The Des Moines Register says Kenneth Rettler of Bear Creek, Wis., was arrested in Des Moines on Wednesday on a charge of sexual exploitation by a school employee.

Rettler was a biology teacher at Scavo Alternative High School. He allegedly had a sexual relationship with a student in the fall of 2009. He was fired in December 2009 and relinquished his teacher license in May.

Rettler also is charged with preventing apprehension, obstructing prosecution.

Online court records show Rettler was released after posting $400 bond. A court appearance is Dec. 30. There is no attorney listed for Rettler. There is no telephone listing for him in Bear Creek, Wis.

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« Reply #227 on: December 24, 2010, 10:14:10 AM »
I'm still not understanding what public schools have to do with programs.  You keep trying to conflate the two and they are so very different.
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« Reply #228 on: December 24, 2010, 10:38:42 AM »
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I'm still not understanding what public schools have to do with programs.  You keep trying to conflate the two and they are so very different.

They should be different.  If they were the same then there would be no use in comparing them.   They house different segments of the school kids.  Through the teens years kids are educated in highschools and some go to programs.  They are both the same age groups.



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« Reply #229 on: December 24, 2010, 10:53:19 AM »
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I'm still not understanding what public schools have to do with programs.  You keep trying to conflate the two and they are so very different.

They should be different.  If they were the same then there would be no use in comparing them.   They house different segments of the school kids.  Through the teens years kids are educated in highschools and some go to programs.  They are both the same age groups.


But they're not dealt with in the same way, which is what you're implying.  Public schools don't lock down the kids.  Public schools don't use the LGAT-type humiliation methods.  There is a BIG difference.
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« Reply #230 on: December 24, 2010, 10:56:27 AM »
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I'm still not understanding what public schools have to do with programs.  You keep trying to conflate the two and they are so very different.

They should be different.  If they were the same then there would be no use in comparing them.   They house different segments of the school kids.  Through the teens years kids are educated in highschools and some go to programs.  They are both the same age groups.


But they're not dealt with in the same way, which is what you're implying.  Public schools don't lock down the kids.  Public schools don't use the LGAT-type humiliation methods.  There is a BIG difference.

There are huge differences between the two that is why I am comparing them.  Public schools do not use LGAT's and programs dont have kids who go home at night.  They are vastly different.  If they were exactly the same then why would we want to compare them?



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Re: Public School and Program Abuse
« Reply #231 on: December 24, 2010, 10:59:39 AM »
What's your point?
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« Reply #232 on: December 24, 2010, 11:20:50 AM »
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What's your point?

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« Reply #233 on: December 24, 2010, 11:28:27 AM »
ST. THOMAS - A 39-year-old St. Thomas elementary school teacher who was charged with sex abuse following student complaints, has resigned his nine-year position with Thames Valley District school board.

Darren Blew, a coach at his school, appeared Tuesday in St. Thomas court where charges against him were withdrawn by the Crown.

Justice Michael O’Dea was told Blew had agreed to sign a four-year peace bond.

A school board spokesperson said Wednesday Blew has submitted his resignation, which has been accepted by administration.

She was not able to say if Blew’s resignation is part of any agreement between him and the Crown.

Blew, a Grade 7 teacher at Southwold elementary school, was charged in March with sexual assault, sexual interference with a minor, sexual exploitation and assault, following a month-long investigation by Elgin OPP into complaints by pupils and former pupils of inappropriate touching.

OPP said the alleged incidents happened at the school and spanned a three-year period.

They said “a number of students” had complained.

Blew hadn’t been at Southwold school since Jan. 22 when he was placed on paid leave after allegations first surfaced. He had been with the board since 2001.

Blew had coached the Southwold Cougars girls basketball team to a Thames Valley District School Board elementary girls AAA basketball championship in 2004 and to a silver medal at the same competition in 2005.
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Re: Public School and Program Abuse
« Reply #234 on: December 24, 2010, 11:31:34 AM »
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There are huge differences between the two that is why I am comparing them.


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« Reply #235 on: December 24, 2010, 11:39:08 AM »
Anne do you think programs and public schools are different?  If so how?



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« Reply #236 on: December 24, 2010, 11:41:48 AM »
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Anne do you think programs and public schools are different?  If so how?


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But they're not dealt with in the same way, which is what you're implying.  Public schools don't lock down the kids.  Public schools don't use the LGAT-type humiliation methods.  There is a BIG difference.


Just for starters.
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« Reply #237 on: December 24, 2010, 11:49:16 AM »
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Anne do you think programs and public schools are different?  If so how?


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But they're not dealt with in the same way, which is what you're implying.  Public schools don't lock down the kids.  Public schools don't use the LGAT-type humiliation methods.  There is a BIG difference.


Just for starters.

Exactly, you just compared the two, Anne.  One has LGAT's and the other one doesn't.  Thats a comparison.  so you see you can compeare the two to see how different they are.  I am looking at the abuses which are revealed in the paper and news items.



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Re: Public School and Program Abuse
« Reply #238 on: December 24, 2010, 12:01:19 PM »
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What's your point?

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« Reply #239 on: December 24, 2010, 12:32:42 PM »
One has LGAT's and the other one doesn't.  Thats a comparison.  so you see you can compare the two to see how different they are.  I am looking at the abuses which are revealed in the paper and news items.

The point is that it can be done.  So people may be interested others not so much.  When people read the title of the thread they can decide if they want to read it or not and whether it adds value to them.



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