Public School and Program Abuse

[RobertBruce]

I think we can all now agree the issue has been settled and the question has been answered, publics schools are much safer than programs. Public Schools embrace transperancy and accountability in an effort to create a safer environment for kids. Programs meanwhile avoid it like the plauge and remain dangerous and abusive.

Thank you Whooter for providing so much evidence that proves public schools are safer.

It's too bad you couldnt ever answer the questions regarding which programs you're familiar with, or answer why programs are so afraid of accountability, but we weren't expecting much from you.

[Whooter]

Thank you Whooter for providing so much evidence....

you are welcome, Robert.  As you come across reports of abuse in programs or in public schools just post them in this thread.  wait here is another one:

December 2, 2010
PAHRUMP, Nev. -- The Nye County District Attorney has filed formal charges against four school district employees accused of child abuse.

The four women, Principal Holly Lepisto, teacher Sarah Hopkins, and classroom aids Kathryn Cummings and Phyllis Du Shane, worked at Floyd Elementary School and are charged with one count of child abuse and neglect.

The teacher and two classroom aids are accused of using physical force against special education students.

The district attorney alleges the three women forced a student to repeatedly punch himself in the face, swatted a student and struck a student in the mouth. Some of the children were unable to speak due to developmental disabilities. Another had cerebral palsy.

The DA alleges the Principal Lepisto had received complaints about the physical abuse but failed to act.

In a statement, District Attorney Brian Kunzi said, "When the physical force is done under circumstances that have nothing to do with student safety, such force is unreasonable and may constitute abuse."

According to the police report, a total of four children were allegedly abused in the classroom.

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[RobertBruce]

Since the incident was not reported as an attack it was only after talking to the suspects that investigators discovered what had taken place at the boarding school, said Childress.

No need Whooter, the question has been settled, public schools have been proven to be safer, everyone else has moved on. If you'd bothered to read my entire post and not try and edit it to suit your agenda you would have picked up on that.  :seg:

See you in other threads buddy!

[Whooter]

See you in other threads buddy!

Thanks Bruce.. whoops hold on another one:

December 2, 2010

ELIZABETHTOWN, Ky. -- A former Central Hardin High School teacher faces sexual abuse charges involving two female students.

Steven Gray was arrested Thursday by Kentucky State Police.

He's accused of having sex with a 17-year-old girl multiple times between October 2009 and February 2010.

According to a criminal complaint, Gray also inappropriately touched a 16-year-old girl in his car at a park.

Gray was fired by the school district last week.

He had worked at Central Hardin since 2006 as a social studies teacher and a track coach.

Gray is charged with sexual abuse and unlawful transaction with a minor

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[Anne Bonney]

Technically every school is different.  Some are in the north, some in the south, some have good teachers some have bad teachers.  But that is why we compare to see what the differences are.

See, this is where you like to play the semantics game.  Yes, every school is different in some way, but there is NO comparison between being locked up in a program (like the ones we're referring to here) and a public school.  Public schools don't separate families.  Public schools don't use confrontational/humiliation tactics.  Public schools don't isolate kids from the real world.  Quit trying to compare apples to oranges.

[Whooter]

Technically every school is different.  Some are in the north, some in the south, some have good teachers some have bad teachers.  But that is why we compare to see what the differences are.

See, this is where you like to play the semantics game.  Yes, every school is different in some way, but there is NO comparison between being locked up in a program (like the ones we're referring to here) and a public school.  Public schools don't separate families.  Public schools don't use confrontational/humiliation tactics.  Public schools don't isolate kids from the real world.  Quit trying to compare apples to oranges.

I am pointing out that they are different in many ways, but they are also similar in that they house and educate kids in the highschool years.  Which place is safer programs or Public school?  We really dont know but this is a good thread to post our thoughts and record incidences that occur in these places.



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[Anne Bonney]

Technically every school is different.  Some are in the north, some in the south, some have good teachers some have bad teachers.  But that is why we compare to see what the differences are.

See, this is where you like to play the semantics game.  Yes, every school is different in some way, but there is NO comparison between being locked up in a program (like the ones we're referring to here) and a public school.  Public schools don't separate families.  Public schools don't use confrontational/humiliation tactics.  Public schools don't isolate kids from the real world.  Quit trying to compare apples to oranges.

I am pointing out that they are different in many ways, but they are also similar in that they house and educate kids in the highschool years.  Which place is safer programs or Public school?  We really dont know but this is a good thread to post our thoughts and record incidences that occur in these places.

See, this is where you like to play the semantics game.  Yes, every school is different in some way, but there is NO comparison between being locked up in a program (like the ones we're referring to here) and a public school.  Public schools don't separate families.  Public schools don't use confrontational/humiliation tactics.  Public schools don't isolate kids from the real world.  Quit trying to distract from the subject at hand.....programs.  That's all this entire thread is.....an attempt to deflect attention away from programs

[Whooter]

Technically every school is different.  Some are in the north, some in the south, some have good teachers some have bad teachers.  But that is why we compare to see what the differences are.

See, this is where you like to play the semantics game.  Yes, every school is different in some way, but there is NO comparison between being locked up in a program (like the ones we're referring to here) and a public school.  Public schools don't separate families.  Public schools don't use confrontational/humiliation tactics.  Public schools don't isolate kids from the real world.  Quit trying to compare apples to oranges.

I am pointing out that they are different in many ways, but they are also similar in that they house and educate kids in the highschool years.  Which place is safer programs or Public school?  We really dont know but this is a good thread to post our thoughts and record incidences that occur in these places.

See, this is where you like to play the semantics game.  Yes, every school is different in some way, but there is NO comparison between being locked up in a program (like the ones we're referring to here) and a public school.  Public schools don't separate families.  Public schools don't use confrontational/humiliation tactics.  Public schools don't isolate kids from the real world.  Quit trying to distract from the subject at hand.....programs.  That's all this entire thread is.....an attempt to deflect attention away from programs

Yes there is a comparison, you are wrong.  This thread shows the abuse occurring in public schools and in programs.



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[Anne Bonney]

Technically every school is different.  Some are in the north, some in the south, some have good teachers some have bad teachers.  But that is why we compare to see what the differences are.

See, this is where you like to play the semantics game.  Yes, every school is different in some way, but there is NO comparison between being locked up in a program (like the ones we're referring to here) and a public school.  Public schools don't separate families.  Public schools don't use confrontational/humiliation tactics.  Public schools don't isolate kids from the real world.  Quit trying to compare apples to oranges.

I am pointing out that they are different in many ways, but they are also similar in that they house and educate kids in the highschool years.  Which place is safer programs or Public school?  We really dont know but this is a good thread to post our thoughts and record incidences that occur in these places.

See, this is where you like to play the semantics game.  Yes, every school is different in some way, but there is NO comparison between being locked up in a program (like the ones we're referring to here) and a public school.  Public schools don't separate families.  Public schools don't use confrontational/humiliation tactics.  Public schools don't isolate kids from the real world.  Quit trying to distract from the subject at hand.....programs.  That's all this entire thread is.....an attempt to deflect attention away from programs

Yes there is a comparison, you are wrong.  This thread shows the abuse occurring in public schools and in programs.

Not a true comparison.....they're both fruit, but apples and oranges.  Abuse occurs everywhere.  This thread of yours is just an attempt to throw attention off of programs.

[Whooter]

Not a true comparison.....they're both fruit, but apples and oranges.  Abuse occurs everywhere.  This thread of yours is just an attempt to throw attention off of programs.

I accept your right to disagree.  But in all fairness I think it is good to post information from outside fornits so that people can get an outside perspective.  If they feel there is no comparison then they can just skip  over this thread.  That is typically what I do if I feel the information is not relevant or misleading.



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[Anne Bonney]

Not a true comparison.....they're both fruit, but apples and oranges.  Abuse occurs everywhere.  This thread of yours is just an attempt to throw attention off of programs.

I accept your right to disagree.  But in all fairness I think it is good to post information from outside fornits so that people can get an outside perspective.

That's fine and dandy, but present it for what it is......a marketing tool from their own website.  Don't try and pass it off as someone just dropping by here to say something good about the program.


And again....Abuse occurs everywhere.  This thread of yours is just an attempt to throw attention off of programs.  This site wasn't developed to question the public school system.  It was developed to question the TTI.  You just throw out whatever you can to take the focus off of the TTI.

[Whooter]

That's fine and dandy, but present it for what it is......a marketing tool from their own website.  Don't try and pass it off as someone just dropping by here to say something good about the program.

I think your above post was meant for another thread  (Aspen interview?)

And again....Abuse occurs everywhere.  This thread of yours is just an attempt to throw attention off of programs.  This site wasn't developed to question the public school system.  It was developed to question the TTI.  You just throw out whatever you can to take the focus off of the TTI.

This thread is a good place to post reports of abuse in programs and public schools.  I think it gives the readers some insight into what is occurring with our young people and the threats they are constantly under.



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[Dysfunction Junction]

Not a true comparison.....they're both fruit, but apples and oranges. Abuse occurs everywhere. This thread of yours is just an attempt to throw attention off of programs.

And it's transparent, Anne.  Everybody sees it.

[Whooter]

Not a true comparison.....they're both fruit, but apples and oranges. Abuse occurs everywhere. This thread of yours is just an attempt to throw attention off of programs.

And it's transparent, Anne.  Everybody sees it.

.....and I think it is all fine either way, the main thing is that we are getting some information about programs and public schools and abuse that occurs out to the readers and providing links to the originals.



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[Whooter]

A Duval County fifth-grade teacher is in jail after authorities questioned her about having sex with a student she tutored in math and counseled at church.

On Friday, police charged Kristina Rhoden Hartless, 39, with three counts of capital sexual battery on a child older than 12. Authorities said she also served as the male victim's church counselor.

Hartless has taught at Beauclerc Elementary since 2006, a schools spokeswoman said.

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