Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Phoenix House/Marathon House
Ursus:
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--- Quote from: "heretik" ---Everyone there was from Rhode Island or western Massachusetts along the shore.
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I realize this is a pissy petty and overly particular point, but... there are NO "shores" in western Massachusetts. Riverbanks, yes. Shores, no.
Given that western Mass. is at least 100 miles from any source of salt water, if not twice that, depending upon your direction and starting point, I'm guessing that you meant to say something else. Might that be... eastern Massachusetts? Or... southern Connecticut?
Or... might you be fishing for info on someone else's behalf?
Jes' wanted to clear that up, in the event that someone should happen by, for whom that might be a potential item of confusion.
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No I am not fishing for info for someone else. I meant west of Cape Cod and better yet Buzzards Bay. The New Bedford, Fall River, Somerset and Taunton areas, southwestern Mass. along the shore (Bay).
Sorry for the confusion, Ursus. I should have said southwestern.
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Ah. Well... the area and towns you note are all in eastern or southeastern Massachusetts, not including the Cape. Thanks for providing more specific detail.
For perspective, Western Massachusetts shares borders with Connecticut, New York State, and Vermont:
Map showing the counties typically considered to make up Western Massachusetts (dark green). Worcester County is considered to be central Massachusetts (light green). Source[/list]
Anyway... that area in southeastern Mass. that you describe appears to have been a real hotbed, so to speak, of early TC modality treatment centers. Not only for drug abuse, but also for juvenile justice related programs as well. Layne Meacham's Proctor Advocate program (Straight, Inc. spin-off) even gleans some of its inspiration from there.
dragonfly:
heretik:
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--- Quote from: "heretik" ---Hey I am still looking for more information on Marathon House. If anyone has any info would really appreciate it. Maybe you know someone from Daytop, Phoenix House or else where, staff or residents.
Primarily looking for information during the late 60's, 70's and 80's.
Thanks
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I just now discovered the Fornits Wiki pages and saw the "Family Tree" of coercive abuse....
That chart says that SEED came out of Pheonix house, which was David Deitch's project right? or was he director after it started or is that chart really true...
I know there is sensitivity now as to not getting off topic, I'm real sorry if this question bothers anyone but whatever I'm a 41 year old acid head freak recovering from the brainwash as best I can and the last thinig I want to be worrying about is whether my question is appropriate on a freakin' survivor forum HOLY HELL I;m just trying to figure out what the fricking history is.....
Any way FUCK I don't care if I am off fucking topic HOLY FUCK...
So , anyone know if that chart on FOrnits Wiki is accurate? Any details or sources for that information?
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:roflmao: It's all good dragonfly. I'm still trying to figure this shit out too and not step on toes in the process.
Peace!!!!
Dethgurl:
--- Quote from: "dragonfly" ---
--- Quote from: "heretik" ---Hey I am still looking for more information on Marathon House. If anyone has any info would really appreciate it. Maybe you know someone from Daytop, Phoenix House or else where, staff or residents.
Primarily looking for information during the late 60's, 70's and 80's.
Thanks
--- End quote ---
I just now discovered the Fornits Wiki pages and saw the "Family Tree" of coercive abuse....
That chart says that SEED came out of Pheonix house, which was David Deitch's project right? or was he director after it started or is that chart really true...
I know there is sensitivity now as to not getting off topic, I'm real sorry if this question bothers anyone but whatever I'm a 41 year old acid head freak recovering from the brainwash as best I can and the last thinig I want to be worrying about is whether my question is appropriate on a freakin' survivor forum HOLY HELL I;m just trying to figure out what the fricking history is.....
Any way FUCK I don't care if I am off fucking topic HOLY FUCK...
So , anyone know if that chart on FOrnits Wiki is accurate? Any details or sources for that information?
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This chart? http://http://motherjones.com/politics/2007/08/cult-spawned-tough-love-teen-industry
seamus:
ya gotta love maia :nods:
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