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Offline Whooter

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Re: How Far Will Program Pushers Go to Invalidate Abuse Vict
« Reply #270 on: December 24, 2010, 12:27:59 PM »
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even if she dropped out and enjoyed every vice known to man on a daily basis - I still don't think the answer is a Mind Rape Factory.

Of course not...is it ever the answer?

I think we all agree, I dont think anyone deserved to be placed in Straight.  I dont think the parents knew much about them in those days.


Then why do you lie about my actions pre-Straight and say that my parents were right in sending me there?

Why do you lie and say I profit from the industry or have sons I placed in the industry?  Why do any of us lie?

Your parents felt they were doing the right thing.  Maybe in 50 years we will realize how damaging it was to send our kids to public school.



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Re: How Far Will Program Pushers Go to Invalidate Abuse Vict
« Reply #271 on: December 24, 2010, 12:31:41 PM »
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even if she dropped out and enjoyed every vice known to man on a daily basis - I still don't think the answer is a Mind Rape Factory.

Of course not...is it ever the answer?

I think we all agree, I dont think anyone deserved to be placed in Straight.  I dont think the parents knew much about them in those days.


Then why do you lie about my actions pre-Straight and say that my parents were right in sending me there?

Why do you lie and say I profit from the industry or have sons I placed in the industry?

I said that was my BELIEF......not a fact.

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Your parents felt they were doing the right thing.

Actually, as you've read, my dad has started to come around and figuring out that what he did was wrong.

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 Maybe in 50 years we will realize how damaging it was to send our kids to public school.

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Re: How Far Will Program Pushers Go to Invalidate Abuse Vict
« Reply #272 on: December 24, 2010, 12:32:59 PM »
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Merry Christmas, Bruce, I hope you can find a way to purge your anger. Enjoy the weekend and get to connect with family somehow.


Merry Christmas to you too Whooter. I'm already at my parents house with my family. I hope you have a chance to spend some time with your family as well.

Before that though Anne asked you a question I think deserves an answer.
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Re: How Far Will Program Pushers Go to Invalidate Abuse Vict
« Reply #273 on: December 24, 2010, 12:35:15 PM »
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Actually, as you've read, my dad has started to come around and figuring out that what he did was wrong.

Glade to hear it.  At the time I am sure he felt he was doing the right thing.



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Re: How Far Will Program Pushers Go to Invalidate Abuse Vict
« Reply #274 on: December 24, 2010, 12:35:44 PM »
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even if she dropped out and enjoyed every vice known to man on a daily basis - I still don't think the answer is a Mind Rape Factory.

Of course not...is it ever the answer?

I think we all agree, I dont think anyone deserved to be placed in Straight.  I dont think the parents knew much about them in those days.


Then why do you lie about my actions pre-Straight and say that my parents were right in sending me there?


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Re: How Far Will Program Pushers Go to Invalidate Abuse Vict
« Reply #275 on: December 24, 2010, 12:50:44 PM »
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Actually, as you've read, my dad has started to come around and figuring out that what he did was wrong.

Glade to hear it.  At the time I am sure he felt he was doing the right thing.


No, not really.  He was a controlling freak. He treated my Mom horribly.  He's mellowed in his old age.
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Re: How Far Will Program Pushers Go to Invalidate Abuse Vict
« Reply #276 on: December 24, 2010, 12:54:32 PM »
This thread really shows Whooter's attitude towards kids and how to deal with them.  It's one of, if not the most, telling threads he's participated in.
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Re: How Far Will Program Pushers Go to Invalidate Abuse Vict
« Reply #277 on: December 24, 2010, 12:57:01 PM »
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I think we all agree, I dont think anyone deserved to be placed in a mind rape factory. I dont think the parents knew much about them in those days.


Yet you refuse to acknowledge how little has changed between programs back then, and programs today.

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Why do you lie and say I profit from the industry or have sons I placed in the industry? Why do any of us lie?


This has been addressed already. You provided the evidence that showed you receive a profit from the TTI industry by discussing your fiduicary interest.

You also provided the evidence that you have sons placed in the industry by claiming as much.

As for us lying, if you'd like to link to any lies you feel we have told by all means do so and we can discuss them.

In the meantime try and answer Anne's question directly without comparing your actions to someone else. Why did you lie. Take respondsibility.
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Re: How Far Will Program Pushers Go to Invalidate Abuse Vict
« Reply #278 on: December 24, 2010, 01:14:56 PM »
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Your parents felt they were doing the right thing. Maybe in 50 years we will realize how damaging it was to send our kids to public school.




Public Schools on average remain far safer than programs, so there's no reason people would think this in 50 years. Afterall public schools in America have existed for over 100 years. No reason for that to suddenly change.
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Re: How Far Will Program Pushers Go to Invalidate Abuse Vict
« Reply #279 on: December 24, 2010, 01:18:23 PM »
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Your parents felt they were doing the right thing. Maybe in 50 years we will realize how damaging it was to send our kids to public school.




Public Schools on average remain far safer than programs, so there's no reason people would think this in 50 years. Afterall public schools in America have existed for over 100 years. No reason for that to suddenly change.

I heard people said straight was a safe place back in the 1970's.



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Re: How Far Will Program Pushers Go to Invalidate Abuse Vict
« Reply #280 on: December 24, 2010, 01:30:56 PM »
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I heard people said straight was a safe place back in the 1970's.

How would you have heard about Straight back in the 70's before your children were even born unless you had a connection to this industry?
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Re: How Far Will Program Pushers Go to Invalidate Abuse Vict
« Reply #281 on: December 24, 2010, 02:01:17 PM »
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Your parents felt they were doing the right thing. Maybe in 50 years we will realize how damaging it was to send our kids to public school.




Public Schools on average remain far safer than programs, so there's no reason people would think this in 50 years. Afterall public schools in America have existed for over 100 years. No reason for that to suddenly change.

I heard people said straight was a safe place back in the 1970's.

Citation please.
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Re: How Far Will Program Pushers Go to Invalidate Abuse Vict
« Reply #282 on: December 24, 2010, 02:36:46 PM »
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Your parents felt they were doing the right thing. Maybe in 50 years we will realize how damaging it was to send our kids to public school.




Public Schools on average remain far safer than programs, so there's no reason people would think this in 50 years. Afterall public schools in America have existed for over 100 years. No reason for that to suddenly change.

I heard people said straight was a safe place back in the 1970's.

Citation please.

Heard, I dont have a link for that.



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Re: How Far Will Program Pushers Go to Invalidate Abuse Vict
« Reply #283 on: December 25, 2010, 01:02:59 AM »
How would you have heard about straight back in the 70's?
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Re: How Far Will Program Pushers Go to Invalidate Abuse Vict
« Reply #284 on: December 25, 2010, 08:50:07 AM »
I heard it got worse when Miller Newton became involved.
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