Troubled Parent Invents Troubled Teen to Show "Success"

[Anne Bonney]

I've never lied nor have I embellished anything about the abuse heaped upon myself and thousands of others at Straight.  

Dysfunction Junction made the same claims until we (myself and fornits) exposed him.  We just dont know at this point and cant be sure.  Look at Son of Serbia who claimed he never called anyone a faggot?

I am just a little cautious on who I believe at this point, Anne.

Well, you've accused me of embellishing.  When I asked you to provide a link, you refused..

And SOS's use of the term "faggot" wasn't as you're presenting, but we've gotten used to you twisting our words around.

[Watchful Yeoman]

The whole point of this thread is that Whooter created a fake family and got caught lying and admitted it.  He can't twist his own words on the subject.

I admit that, Anne.

It's unambiguous that Whooter confessed to inventing his family as a "program success" marketing tool.

[Whooter]

The whole point of this thread is that Whooter created a fake family and got caught lying and admitted it.  He can't twist his own words on the subject.

To keep it in perspective we shouldn't leave out the fact that this is mild compared to what the anti-program group does.  They create stories of abuse and pretend they attended programs that they didn't just to discredit the school like this one.  This is just one of many:

Yes, TheWho personally abused me.  And now I'm scarred for life.  He performed several red-flag touches on the area my bathing suit covers.  I tried to turn him in, but ASR wouldn't let me use the phone and told my parents I was a liar.  TheWho molested me.

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[Anne Bonney]

The whole point of this thread is that Whooter created a fake family and got caught lying and admitted it.  He can't twist his own words on the subject.

To keep it in perspective we shouldn't leave out the fact that this is mild compared to what the anti-program group does.  They create stories of abuse and pretend they attended programs that they didn't just to discredit the school like this one.  This is just one of many:

Yes, TheWho personally abused me.  And now I'm scarred for life.  He performed several red-flag touches on the area my bathing suit covers.  I tried to turn him in, but ASR wouldn't let me use the phone and told my parents I was a liar.  TheWho molested me.

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I don't think you're gonna get too far comparing an obvious and long running joke here, to your outright making up of a family and your outright impersonation of a "student".

[Whooter]

I don't think you're gonna get too far comparing an obvious and long running joke here, to your outright making up of a family and your outright impersonation of a "student".

I dont mind,  I think we can let the readers decide.  We all have a sense of humor, myself included.  Impersonating a survivor in a program and making up claims that he was abused at ASR isnt a joke.  That will be a hard sell.  

If you accept these types of fabrications, anne,then you throw into question your own story imo.



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[Watchful Yeoman]

Whooter has been impersonating a lot of people here, apparently.  There's a list of his aliases on another thread.  He has about 50 of them ranging from a parent of program kid, to a program kid, to a program staff, to a research scientist.  He covers all of the bases with his fake identities and fake families.  But yes, to your point, a silly gag on a troll thread ("TheWho") is nothing like inventing an entire family complete with fake children, etc.  There's no equivalency there.

That's no to mention how he accuses everyone who proves he's lying of being a pedophile which he has done to many posters here like ajax13 and Samara.

[Anne Bonney]

I don't think you're gonna get too far comparing an obvious and long running joke here, to your outright making up of a family and your outright impersonation of a "student".

I dont mind,  I think we can let the readers decide.  We all have a sense of humor, myself included.  Impersonating a survivor in a program and making up claims that he was abused at ASR isnt a joke.

The "red touched" post?  

If you accept these types of fabrications, anne,then you throw into question your own story imo.

Those "fabrications"?  The "red flag" joke?

I don't care how much you question my "story".  I know it's true and, deep down, so do you.  You might not believe it about other programs, but I do think you believe it about Straight.  You just try and throw doubt in there for the benefit of others reading, hoping it'll catch on with them.

[Whooter]

I don't care how much you question my "story".  I know it's true and, deep down, so do you.  You might not believe it about other programs, but I do think you believe it about Straight.  You just try and throw doubt in there for the benefit of others reading, hoping it'll catch on with them.

I really dont care what others think either.  We all know ourselves and what our individual stories are.  You try to keep supporting that I fabricated a son for other reasons than the ones I described to you.  You do this to try to throw doubt for the benefit of the readers.  Why do you do this?  and why wouldnt the readers believe you are capable of allowing other untruths slip by about your time in straight?



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[Watchful Yeoman]

I really dont care what others think either.

Then why did you make up your fake family?

I fabricated a son

Yes, we know, but your reasoning doesn't add up.  If you weren't trying to sway opinions, why did you fabricate the son?  What else have you fabricated?

and why wouldnt the readers believe you are capable of allowing other untruths slip by about your time in straight?

Oh, I don't know, maybe because she hasn't been caught fabricating a family?  See, the difference is you are speculating about Anne, but there is incontrovertible proof that you made up a fake family.  There's a huge difference there.  You try to create doubt by speculation with no evidence and Anne just quotes you where you admitted making up a whole fake family which doesn't require speculation but creates strong doubt in the reader, as it should.

[Anne Bonney]

I don't care how much you question my "story".  I know it's true and, deep down, so do you.  You might not believe it about other programs, but I do think you believe it about Straight.  You just try and throw doubt in there for the benefit of others reading, hoping it'll catch on with them.

I really dont care what others think either.  We all know ourselves and what our individual stories are.  You try to keep supporting that I fabricated a son for other reasons than the ones I described to you.

You say it was to defend this woman.  I've said that I don't understand how changing the gender of the child(ren) you sent away accomplishes this.

 You do this to try to throw doubt for the benefit of the readers.  Why do you do this?  and why wouldnt the readers believe you are capable of allowing other untruths slip by about your time in straight?

"other" untruths?  First provide ANY untruth that I have knowingly stated.

[Whooter]

You say it was to defend this woman.  I've said that I don't understand how changing the gender of the child(ren) you sent away accomplishes this.

If you notice from the "Worried Anne" discussion that the posters thought that I was posting as her.  So if I said I had a daughter in a wilderness program people would have sensed it was me posting, whereas saying I had a son didnt pose that much of a risk. although they caught on anyway lol.

But that was my thinking at the time.



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[Anne Bonney]

You say it was to defend this woman.  I've said that I don't understand how changing the gender of the child(ren) you sent away accomplishes this.

If you notice from the "Worried Anne" discussion that the posters thought that I was posting as her.  So if I said I had a daughter in a wilderness program people would have sensed it was me posting, whereas saying I had a son didnt pose that much of a risk. although they caught on anyway lol.

Which is why it's difficult for me to believe that your reasoning was to defend this woman.  Your posts are pretty easy to spot.

[Whooter]

You say it was to defend this woman.  I've said that I don't understand how changing the gender of the child(ren) you sent away accomplishes this.

If you notice from the "Worried Anne" discussion that the posters thought that I was posting as her.  So if I said I had a daughter in a wilderness program people would have sensed it was me posting, whereas saying I had a son didnt pose that much of a risk. although they caught on anyway lol.

Which is why it's difficult for me to believe that your reasoning was to defend this woman.  Your posts are pretty easy to spot.

Well not really because they thought I was worried Anne and a few other posters and it turned out they were wrong.  First of all it was a program parent and did you read what they were saying about her son?  I think you know me enough to know that I would intercede where I could to help balance the scales.

But in any event I feel comfortable enough with my posts and know why I posted it.



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[Watchful Yeoman]

Some context about Whooter's "fabricated son."

Its a forgone conclusion that you have lied many times here on fornits, Anne, based on your own logic.

Well, there's a bit of a problem with Whooter's "logic" here.  Whooter is trying to use Anne's logic to draw conclusions that Anne has "lied" about her experiences.  He's free to theorize whatever he likes, even though we all see right away he could not provide any example of Anne's alleged "lying."

However, we don't need to make logical deductions that Whooter lied here on Fornits.  All we need is his own words to prove without doubt he is a liar.  No analogies, no twisted "logic" are required.  We simply quote Whooter's own posts where he admits being a liar.

I fabricated a son

That's a pretty hefty admission there.  "I fabricated a son."  Wow.  If Whooter would fabricate his imaginary family, what else wouldn't he fabricate?  This is why Whooter has no credibility.  He already admitted he's a liar.  This is just one instance of many that have been proven.

I fabricated a son

I admit that, Anne.

And as far as "pedophile posts" go, well, Whooter is up to his neck in accusing people of being pedophiles around here as well.

Now go spend some time with your kid.  Turn off the porn and  let him have a normal childhood for a change.  If  you read to him he may forget how you abuse him.

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why are you obsessed with this JD guy?  It isnt going to help you keep your son or erase what you do to him each night.  We both know that yet you keep throwing personal attacks at other people hoping the pain will go away.

You are sick Ajax13.  Stop molesting and abusing your son.  Just because this poster proved you wrong is no reason to take it out on your own family.  Its only a forum.  Leave your kid in peace.

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If your point is to just post laws, well, thats easy.  There are thousands of them.  I didnt see where the law you posted was written for AARC.  The one posted pertains to people like yourself who abuse their kids sexually.  At least mine has some credibility.

And speaking of "credibility" here is a list compiled by "Troll Control" of Whooter's aliases he has used to post on Fornits.

Whooter’s aliases:

RobertBruce.

RobertBruce .

RobertBruces

BEN WAjowski

Fred Bicep

Peg Sympson

John C.

Mike D.

Ursas

Slander Programs

John B.

Jim Bunson

Dot MacKinnon

Jammie Sympson (eventually it will be the whole “Sympson Family” I suppose)

Mark Rosen

Roger Glasdco

John Randall

Pete DeGroot

Mark DeGroot (I guess the “DeGroot Family” too)

Warner Stubbin

Steve Backlan

James Driding

Rob Jamison

Boarding Schools Pros and Cons (he’s the “con”)

Bess H.

Iao;nori

Jim Baylor

Sid Michaels

Fred Thompson

John McCain

Sarah Palin

Mitt Romney

Al Gore

Dick Cheney

Mike Wilson

Rudy Bentz

Heal Online

Margaret Wilson

Revenge Fantasy Girlz

Diddle

Robert Hess

Ajax13.

Tom K

Aghast.

Marion

To me, and probably all of the other readers here, it looks like Whooter has been by far the most dishonest poster.  It appears all he has left is to try to attack others because his behavior here is very, very shady to say the least.  Readers should know this context and these proven facts before rendering their judgment on Whooter's excuses for all of his dishonesty.

More on Whooter's dishonesty and aliases here and here.

[Whooter]

Awwww,, I am sorry I outed you again, Dysfunction Junction, Troll Control, Watchful Yeoman  (this months names).  Everytime I out you you get mad and start posting long posts against me or putting more links in your footer lol.  Are you not a father with a young son now?  Why not grow up a bit, be a man and stand up for yourself and post your believes and arguments.

Why not practice facing your adversaries nose to nose and have a conversation instead of sneaking around the shadows.  At least practice being a man so when your son grows up you can set an example for him.

Grab a new username if you like, drag yourself out of the "Offa" threads, come back up to the regular threads and debate the issues.  Shake off some of your insecurities, boy.  

@ Anne, see what I mean?



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