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Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Oz girl" ---Oscar i assume this is gennarose from what it takes to pull me through. If I remember correctly the book said she left claiming the only good thing about the place was the kids. This along with the extremely lax attitude to a suicide attempt, The eventual sucessful suicide of another student from the group, The expolsion for oding on drugs of another and practices like leaving one student to supervise the bathroom visits of an anorexic girl that she actively disliked as well as the grandiose hysterics of the egotistical headmaster should have been enough to send any sane person running a mile from the school!
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You should look at the book again, Oz,  she never stated all of that.



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Eliscu2:

--- Quote from: "Oz girl" ---Oscar i assume this is gennarose from what it takes to pull me through. If I remember correctly the book said she left claiming the only good thing about the place was the kids. This along with the extremely lax attitude to a suicide attempt, The eventual successful suicide of another student from the group, The explosion for oding on drugs of another and practices like leaving one student to supervise the bathroom visits of an anorexic girl that she actively disliked as well as the grandiose hysterics of the egotistical headmaster should have been enough to send any sane person running a mile from the school!
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An extreme lax attitude for a suicide attempt can be developed over time. ::)

Oz girl:
she did state upon leaving that the only good thing about the place was the kids. The book also featured all of those things and worse while also talking the place up. you are full of shit whooter

Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Oz girl" ---she did state upon leaving that the only good thing about the place was the kids. The book also featured all of those things and worse while also talking the place up. you are full of shit whooter
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Hey, OZ that is a little harsh.

Look , OZ, I read the book and he never referred to the head master as "grandiose hysterics of the egotistical headmaster"  lol.  I mean the Marcus had a sense of humor and if he did write it I may agree with him.  but it wasnt in the book.

Back to the topic,  I think we all know that there are many reasons people leave a job.

Let me take the Ursus approach if I may for a second:

This teacher had an interest in “conversational Spanish” and ASR took these kids to Cost Rica just before graduation for 6 weeks.  It was paradise, the kids loved it, the staff loved it (because the kids had overcome all their obstacles and were excited about upcoming graduation) so they were a breeze to deal with vs the kids first weeks.
This teacher would just love to join these kids in Costa Rica for that time period and was just chomping at the bit to go but was never invited to go, she was always rejected for some reason, maybe she didn’t have seniority.  I think we can see that there could easily have been some sour grapes which led to that comment....  she is a good teacher but she wanted to go to Cost Rica like everyone else and utilize her "conversational Spanish",  why didnt ASR utilize her and her knowledge and make her the Cost Rica ambassador?  See what I mean?

If an employee left Microsoft and said the software sucks we could conclude that maybe it does or maybe its because he was being pushed out or didnt get the money he wanted or is pissed off because they just made it a no smoking workplace.  If you spend some time working with people in business you will begin to understand the comments a little more as these people exit their jobs and be able to put them in context.



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Gdomenica13:
Well hello there.  I must say I find this (over) argued and out-of-context discussion of my two year career at the Academy at Swift River fascinating.

A few questions:

Did you ever stop to think that perhaps a book written about one's extraordinarily deep and intense experience by a non-industry journalist may be just a bit misrepresentational or over-played via poetic license?

Or that making character/performance judgments based on my resumes (which my brother posted and mis-typed) and a mental health issue I dealt with may be a bit irresponsible?

Or that using these resulting erroneous and under-researched conclusions may be an inaccurate way to judge an entire department/academy?

Do you know that I still keep in contact with around 60 former students whose lives were fundamentally changed for the better at ASR because of some of their incredible, intuitive, empathetic, skilled, hard-working and dedicated (yes, these qualities can in fact exist in "them younger folk") and who are doing wonderfully in their lives?

And is the title of this post ("First teacher-then bartender and now singer") meant as a negative indication of character?

Try and be a little more careful when judgmentally and seemingly so in-depthly discussing a person or establishment you know, in reality, very little about.

And by the way, I much enjoy my own use of the word "discipline" in my resume.  If you've ever been in the restaurant world you know that the word is important and, as one of you mentioned, an indicator that one knows the workings of it well.

Good luck.  I'm sure you're both excellent people.

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