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Oscar:
I do believe that she had the interests of the kids in her heart and she intended to do her best for them. I also believed that the work broke her down. The book which I borrowed led me to this conclusion. I believe that a lot of young people enter this business with a pure heart and they leave it when they discover that the kids are numbers for the accountants and owners.

Ursus:

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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Great find, Guys.  What a fantastic exposure for kids at risk.  She really sounds like and independent self starter and great role model for those children.
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Well, you would know all about that now, wouldn't you, Whooter? After all, she was featured not too minimally in your friend Dave Marcus' book, What it takes to pull me through. Gotta say, a 22-year-old anorexic fresh outta college still having "slip-ups," leading Group for girls with eating disorders, sounds about right for Academy at Swift River...
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People slipup their whole lives it doesn’t mean they deserve to be fired or should be denied a job.  She was starting out in life and had a great deal to share with kids.

Why do you always have to point out peoples’ shortcomings and run them down just because they enjoy helping kids and happen to take a job working with at-risk youths?  Have a little compassion; why not point out some of the peoples’ better qualities for a change.

Why not point out that she won a grammy or works with special needs students?  Graduated 8th in her class etc.
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I'm sorry, did I miss something? Was this thread supposed to be about "The Gennarose Show?" Gee, you're right, she really does sound like a neat person. Oh, heck, I hope she has a wonderful life and I wish her the best of luck!

But... I believe you have misunderstood me, Whooter. My concern has not to do with Ms. Gennarose Domenica Pope and her life's trials and tribulations, but with the Academy at Swift River, and their professional judgment, or lack thereof, in fulfilling their responsibilities towards students and their parents. I would think that said consumers have a right to expect that ASR hires professionals with a level of maturity sufficient for such a job, eh? After all, ASR markets itself as behavioral health professionals ... right?

Joel:
Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010

Whooter:

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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Great find, Guys.  What a fantastic exposure for kids at risk.  She really sounds like and independent self starter and great role model for those children.
--- End quote ---
Well, you would know all about that now, wouldn't you, Whooter? After all, she was featured not too minimally in your friend Dave Marcus' book, What it takes to pull me through. Gotta say, a 22-year-old anorexic fresh outta college still having "slip-ups," leading Group for girls with eating disorders, sounds about right for Academy at Swift River...
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People slipup their whole lives it doesn’t mean they deserve to be fired or should be denied a job.  She was starting out in life and had a great deal to share with kids.

Why do you always have to point out peoples’ shortcomings and run them down just because they enjoy helping kids and happen to take a job working with at-risk youths?  Have a little compassion; why not point out some of the peoples’ better qualities for a change.

Why not point out that she won a grammy or works with special needs students?  Graduated 8th in her class etc.
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I'm sorry, did I miss something? Was this thread supposed to be about "The Gennarose Show?" Gee, you're right, she really does sound like a neat person. Oh, heck, I hope she has a wonderful life and I wish her the best of luck!

But... I believe you have misunderstood me, Whooter. My concern has not to do with Ms. Gennarose Domenica Pope and her life's trials and tribulations, but with the Academy at Swift River, and their professional judgment, or lack thereof, in fulfilling their responsibilities towards students and their parents. I would think that said consumers have a right to expect that ASR hires professionals with the maturity appropriate for the job, eh? After all, ASR markets itself as behavioral health professionals ... right?
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Then why the anorexia comments and pointing out that she put the word "discipline" on her resume.  You are not being honest, Ursus.

You haven't pointed out why she should not have been hired and/or how ASR mislead anyone.  All the parents have access to the qualifications of the staff and teachers.  How many teachers do you know that start teaching with 10 years of experience?  Its impossible.  So you think she should have started in the public sector first and subjected public school kids to her slip ups?  I dont see how that would be anymore acceptable.



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Oscar:

--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---You haven't pointed out why she should not have been hired and/or how ASR mislead anyone.  All the parents have access to the qualifications of the staff and teachers.  How many teachers do you know that start teaching with 10 years of experience?  Its impossible.  So you think she should have started in the public sector first and subjected public school kids to her slip ups?  I dont see how that would be anymore acceptable.
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You asked this to Ursus, but let me answer this question.

My son has a 21 year old teacher in religion and math. because the math. teacher is ill. She is a good teacher. She because a substitute teacher when she left high school and we are talking form 0 with 20 kids aged 7-9 in the class. One of the students are her sister, so when we parents met in class a month ago, her parents were present as parents to her sister. It could cause some problems but it doesn't. She is professional even when she is teaching her own sister.

Such a young person can be a good teacher, but the teenagers at Academy at Swift River are no ordinary kids. They have special needs and they have questions about life the kids at my sons classes doesn't. Questions and reflections which need life experience to answer correctly. I have read the book. She gave a lot but between the lines it is hinted that she burned out.

I don't know how fast the staffing is changing at Academy at Swift River, but if they choose to hire such young people, it will be fast.

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