Dr. Phil again and again

[Whooter]

These shows are purely for entertainment value.  Everything is set up from the beginning and Dr.Phil controls the flow and outcome.  He knows before the show even starts how it is going to end.  The families are just props for him so he can prove his point for that day.

Think World Wide Wrestling... its fake.

OMG, someone needs to revive me quickly.....I'm now agreeing with both DannyBoi AND Whooter.

I can't stand Phil.   That goes for Oprah too.

These guys have the script very detailed and finely written 6 months to a year in advance.  They need to review, meet and contract with Aspen Education to get all the legal work figured out and make sure they agree to take this kid they are going to have on the show.  Figure out who will represent Aspen on TV, where the checks are coming from.  Then Aspen needs to insure that they get their 30 seconds of airtime commercial which offsets the cost of taking this kid for free for 12 months or to make up for what Dr. Phils’ show will not contribute.  (Dr. Phil doesn’t give his own money away very easily I am sure).  There is no way Dr. Phil will let himself look like a fool on TV.  He has full control of the outcome and pulls all the strings like a puppeteer.

So Dr.Phil looks good because he is being a humanitarian and financing this kids placement and Aspen Education gets to market their program on national television.  So at the end of the show an Aspen Employee just happens to be in the audience and Oh, what a coincidence!!  There is also an escort service in the audience also, a guy and girl in matching shorts with fresh haircuts and makeup,  willing to donate their time to take this child to the program if not willing.  The parents get to share some red wine in the "Green room" after-wards and receive their Dr. Phil gift baskets and sweatshirts.  Unless something dramatic happens with the kid, which would warrant a follow-up show, "The Dr. Phil Show" will never return a single telephone call.  Because he has moved on to the housewife who drinks all day and cant get out of bed to put her own kids on the bus.



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[Eliscu2]

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[Deprogrammed]

Dr. Phil has once again used Aspen Education Group as a partner in his show. This time it is two sisters who has been sent to Turn-about ranch for - ordinary teenage stuff.

To make matter worse he makes fun of a worried mother trying to establish some security for her daughters when it is obvious for all that they had no access to start a grievance process in the deserts outside Escalante.

Copper Canyon Academy and Academy at Sisters are in play also as Dr. Phil seems to plan a strategy which could break up the family and isolate each of the sisters in different parts of the country for no good reason.

The shows message board is in this link.

Dr. Phil is a disgusting excuse for a human being! ::puke::

[DannyB II]

This being played out on national TV doesn't help the situation at all in my opinion.

I'm falling over in shock.....I actually agree with this statement by DannyBoi.  Any reputable doctor wouldn't expose his patients to national TV.  He's in it for the money.

These shows are purely for entertainment value.  Everything is set up from the beginning and Dr.Phil controls the flow and outcome.  He knows before the show even starts how it is going to end.  The families are just props for him so he can prove his point for that day.

Think World Wide Wrestling... its fake.

OMG, someone needs to revive me quickly.....I'm now agreeing with both DannyBoi AND Whooter.

I can't stand Phil.   That goes for Oprah too.

I agree with you, they all can retire. Though I do like OZ.

[Oz girl]

Oscar the teens smoke, drink, speed, pop pills, disappear all night and disrespect their parents all day.  There are two sides to this story.  I don't have a problem with your topic but post all the facts.  The facts including their behaviors, Oscar.  Whereas they should not be sent to a program that is unsafe.

I take your point here but we are only hearing one side of things as kids hardly have the right of rebuttal on these shows. I would say the fact that the dad did not immediately send them shows that he had doubts indicating that it is *possible* that the kids are not quite as bad as Dr Phil thinks. Also the fact that the mother then broke some of the rules indicates that she obviously had doubts as well about whether all the rules are entirely reasonable. Why anybody chooses tv as the forum to address their kid's behavioral issues to me indicates classic fith syndrome. I also would think that of all the problems on the list "disrespect" which is really another way of saying rude and obnoxious is the one that should especially be addressed by the parents. It is their job to teach kids about manners and courtesy and basic human decency.  If they are not willing to do this and fight this battle then it is little wonder that the kids treat them with contempt

[Whooter]

Oscar the teens smoke, drink, speed, pop pills, disappear all night and disrespect their parents all day.  There are two sides to this story.  I don't have a problem with your topic but post all the facts.  The facts including their behaviors, Oscar.  Whereas they should not be sent to a program that is unsafe.

I take your point here but we are only hearing one side of things as kids hardly have the right of rebuttal on these shows. I would say the fact that the dad did not immediately send them shows that he had doubts indicating that it is *possible* that the kids are not quite as bad as Dr Phil thinks. Also the fact that the mother then broke some of the rules indicates that she obviously had doubts as well about whether all the rules are entirely reasonable. Why anybody chooses tv as the forum to address their kid's behavioral issues to me indicates classic fith syndrome. I also would think that of all the problems on the list "disrespect" which is really another way of saying rude and obnoxious is the one that should especially be addressed by the parents. It is their job to teach kids about manners and courtesy and basic human decency.  If they are not willing to do this and fight this battle then it is little wonder that the kids treat them with contempt

Its the parents job to teach their children "everything".  As a society we have become so reliant on social services that we dont take responsibility for our own children.  The public school system now teaches sex education, nutrition, they feed out kids and some schools are teaching manners and other social skills.  I was talking to a group of people the other day about home schooling and most of them turned their noses down and said "What about socialization!!,  The kids need to be socialized".  Why should we expect our kids to learn how to be social from other kids?  This is nuts.  Kids learn from their parents and should learn from their parents, not from other kids or families or government institutions.



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[Oscar]

They have started to use the show as marketing. Not surprising: Turn-About Ranch Residential Treatment Center for Troubled Teens Featured on Dr. Phil