Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
The Mormons are Coming ... to a theater near you!
Grams:
Correct, except they think they are going to be Gods in the after life, not kings and act like that now. This is from an ex-mormon, who voluntarily withdrew her membership.
Anonymous:
What happened to living the United States and practicing your faith without persecution? This reminds me of growing up Black in the 50's!
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2003-10-12 12:57:00, Anonymous wrote:
"What happened to living the United States and practicing your faith without persecution? This reminds me of growing up Black in the 50's! "
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I completly agree with you. There is plenty of persecution going on here and it is disgusting. I don't care if I agree with a religion or not I personally would never tell people they were part of some great lie or something evil etc.. Who am I to judge? Even if I think I am right I choose not to judge others because I do not want to be judged. And yes, there is a difference between stating your opinion and judging someone.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2003-10-12 09:10:00, KarenZ wrote:
"Anon who asks : what is deliverance anyway and how do you get it?
I'd very much enjoy delving into this with you -but this isn't the place for it. If you want to write, please feel free.
http://www.tbcorders.org/default.asp
I have been so tempted to quote it, but it is all so well written and important to the subject, I can't dicide which paragraphs to quote, and might end up writing whole chapters!
If your Mormon, you really owe it to yourself and your loved ones, to read this book. I'll go so far as to order and pay for it, if you'd promise to read it. Just write me at the address given.
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Ok, so you will chew apart another religion but you won't talk about yours because, "it's just not the place for it" Or maybe you just don't want to be subject to religious persecution.
Roy:
I'm going to read the book since I don/t pretend to understand the religion very well - its just that what I've seen of it so far turns me off to it.
Asking me to be more precise is a valid request. I would say that I dislike the Kings and/or Gods concept, but mostly I dislike the reproducion of children on a scale that would appear to be exploitive of the earth. I believe large families produce still larger numbers of children that consume scarce resources faster than they can be renewed - causing the less fornunate to starve. Also, I believe that this is unethical in a world where many have little or nothing. Further, the whole notion of kings in the afterlife (but not women) is a repugnant as the origonal statement by that Mormon prophet fellow (what's his name?) that blacks are the "seeds of satan." I know, he withdrew this statement after a prophetic vision, but a lot of people in the South had the same "vision" a bit to late. Call me judgemental of this religion. I am, (and this is definately a judgement), not a problem to me. I see this Mormon (LDS) movement as cultish, unethical, controlling, and power hungry, But,I defend your right to believe in it and defend the right to practice it. I would just recomend not subjucating women, admitting to past subjigation of minorities, current of gays , accountability for interfering in the private lives of your belivers, and, environmantal responsibity per reproduction -- i.e. birth control.
Most of all, I would suggest a more open intelectual tradition that is inclusive of more scientific dialouge and free thought on issues such as modern astronomy, particle physics, quantum mechanics and biological evolution.
But, we all have the right to believe and practice as we choose. We don't, however, have the right to expect or demand the silence of critics such as myself. I don't care for religious fundamentalism in general, I'm not ashamed of saying so, and, I have as much right to say so as you do to knock on my door and try to sell me your cultish social control. I have enjoyed the dialouge. Thank you
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