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Maximilian:

--- Quote from: "shaggys" --- Sometimes a year or two in prison is exactly what these folks need to get it together. Very sad.
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If someone that falls into this category, and when they got out and said to people "prison saved my life" it would probably sound confusing and laughable, especially to other people who went to prison. But this is exactly all I'm saying, when I say a program saved my life. It wasn't the therapy or seminars or advice I got from staff, it was the simple act of removing me from my self destructive lifestyle at home for a relatively significant length of time that did it.

Samara:
Jail would have been cheaper :)

DannyB II:

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Postby Maximilian » 21 minutes ago

shaggys wrote:
Sometimes a year or two in prison is exactly what these folks need to get it together. Very sad.

Max wrote:
If someone that falls into this category, and when they got out and said to people "prison saved my life" it would probably sound confusing and laughable, especially to other people who went to prison. But this is exactly all I'm saying, when I say a program saved my life. It wasn't the therapy or seminars or advice I got from staff, it was the simple act of removing me from my self destructive lifestyle at home for a relatively significant length of time that did it.

 

Re: How to get sober

Postby Samara » 7 minutes ago

Samara wrote:
Jail would have been cheaper :)
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That was very aptly put my friend, Max. That is, all we have been saying.

Sanmra, so true but I personally would rather take my chances in a program. Prison can hurt much worse. :waaaa:

twicebaked:

--- Quote from: "Shadyacres" ---If you are detoxing at home, weed was one of the most useful tools in overcoming my own heroin addiction.  Ironically, heroin was the most useful tool in overcoming my alcoholism.
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couldnt agree more about quiting h with alot of  L's. Get a good connect or liscence to grow else you will find yourself spending way too much money on pot.

FemanonFatal2.0:
Funny, I'm actually participating (as a kind of sobriety coach) in my friend's recovery from a Heroin addiction.

This is what I believe is working.

He is in a court mandated program which regularly drug tests him and basically threatens to throw him in jail if he comes up dirty.

He moved into my house. A change of scenery was a very good move for him as it became clear that even visiting his house (where hes been getting high for many years) was a strong enough trigger to lead him to relapse.

He has my constant support and companionship. He also knows I know when he's high and I'll kick his ass.

We often have talks about how being sober has to be his decision, nothing we do could realistically stop him if he wanted to do it, he has made an agreement with himself that he wants nothing to do with dope.

I regularly give him chances to prove he is trustworthy and show him he has my respect and to me, he is not a heroin addict. I make it a point to indicate that the "addict" part of his disorder is separate from his personality and can be overcome with time and will.

We talk about the voice in his head that convinces him to use, we say "that's your addict talking" We've found it helpful to encourage an inner dialog by identifying the excuses "your addict" makes and prepare realistic rebuttals to convince him not to use.

We talk about strength, that a feeling of weakness is not an excuse to relapse and partaking in a substance is a choice that in his case comes with heavy consequences.

He also plays WoW a lot. lol. (staying busy/ entertained is a good way to ward off cravings)

No weed yet, he can't in his program but I have all confidence that he will partake after his program ends. I think it is a positive thing in his case as he has always smoked weed before he started H, so for him it is simply a return to normalcy.

We've only had one small slip in the last 60 days... I think he's doing very well.

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