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[none-ya]

Anne Bonney wrote;
"And sorry, Christianity isn't so peaceful itself. Crusades? Inquisition? Abortion clinic bombings? Doctor killings? The Murrah building in Oklahoma City? Now we've got Q'uran burning and Mosque destruction.
We have religious freedom in this country. It applies to all religions, not just Christianity or the ones we like.

Quite true. And please let's not forget that Nazi Germany was a WHITE CHRISTIAN
NATION

[DannyB II]

No one is disputing they have a right to build.

Oh yes they are.  And many of them are putting pressure on the gov't to stop it.  And if it's just about the location, as many of the protesters say, why are Mosques in Tennessee and other states being protested?  Hell, the one in Tennessee was just burned down.  Why are there Q'uran burnings?  How far away is far enough?  It's being labeled as the "ground zero" Mosque even though it's a full 2 blocks (and NYC blocks at that) away from 'ground zero'.

And sorry, Christianity isn't so peaceful itself.  Crusades?  Inquisition?  Abortion clinic bombings?  Doctor killings?  The Murrah building in Oklahoma City?   Now we've got Q'uran burning and Mosque destruction.

We have religious freedom in this country.  It applies to all religions, not just Christianity or the ones we like.

 Very well said.

[BuzzKill]

Well, I've not seen anyone arguing they don't have the right to build. Not one person. In fact, over and over even the more strident critics explain they have the right - but that they are lying about their intent b/c if they really wanted to increase inter-faith tolerance and understanding they'd definitely not build there, and/or other faiths would also be welcome in their massive building. They are fanning the flames of pain and outrage and they know this.

And of course other faiths have been militaristic and violent but nothing in modern history compares with Islam; Its not even a close contest. And with regard to the blood shed by the RCC, they were acting in direct opposition to Christ's teaching, or that of any of the apostles or even Paul.

Not so with regard to the koran and it's faithful. They are commanded to murder and to lie and to brutalize.

[BuzzKill]

Hitler and the SS were practicing ancient Germanic paganism. They were quit hostile to biblical Christianity and there are SS documents indicating the church was next in line for annihilation and that Germany was allied in this goal, as with the goal to destroy the Jews, by the Islamic nations.

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GET THE IDEA?

[justonemore]

Initially, hitler claimed christianity. Yet,yet. look up Thule gesellschaft. Also, maybe read the work of John Jay Robinson or Barbara Tuchman, might change your mind vis'a'vis' the 'Crusades'. In 400 years, only 40 people were sentenced to death by the 'court of spiritual welfare " The rest met their fate by Spanish Civil court.
Civilian in peace, Soldier in war... You get the idea. Yeah?
J.O.M.

[none-ya]

Boy, the christians are quick to distance themselves from the nazis.
Maybe with the execption of the ku klux klan!

[BuzzKill]

Like the Islamic clerics the Nazi's cozied up with those who tolerated them or provided "moral" support for their policies. It is still true that Hitler was deeply into Germanic paganism. If you are interested you can find plenty to read on the subject and there are several documentaries that mention it and at least one in which their pagan beliefs are the primary focus.
As to the "Christians" that supported Hitler and the SS - they were deluded and blind with no understanding of the scriptures and the tenets of Christ's church; or if they had understanding and embraced the Nazis anyway, they were evil shepherds serving the Great Liar and not Christ and they did so with intent.

But what we're dealing with today is Islam and their intent, and the blind delusion of those who think Islam is a peaceful religion hi-jacked by radicals; and /or the evil intent of an evil shepherd.