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Vantage Point, Utah (Aspiro)

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psy:

--- Quote from: "physics_gal" ---Is there somebody I can PM about this stuff? I don't want them knowing who's making inquiries.
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Sure.  Go ahead and PM me.

Che Gookin:
A repair of the family requires the entire family being present to sort through the family dynamics. Shipping junior or barbie off to brat camp isn't going to help the family learn to work together and more importantly learn to respect each other.

physics_gal:
Thank you guys a whole bunch for your advice (you especially, psy). I'm doing some more research now about the problem of "troubled teen" abuse. I've already studied institutional abuse somewhat; this seems like more of the same, only "justified" because the kids are somehow "bad"... Note the quotation marks, as it seems that the worst these kids were guilty of was being foolish and young and making mistakes. Nobody deserves the kind of treatment I'm hearing about, whether they are disabled, mentally ill, or a "troubled teen"... and the lack of accountability related to taking kids out to the wilderness for "therapy" quite frankly scares me. The potential for abuse seems huge even when intentions are good; and when they aren't... you get tragedy.

Ursus:

--- Quote from: "Aether" ---Bump for relevance, on my part that I should mention the censoring aspect of the program-- I don't know what may have changed since I left (or how different it was before I got there), but when I attended the only form of communication that wasn't limited was through letter-writing; "Dr." Day was insistent that while mail was monitored for protocol/safety measures, nothing would be censored so as to promote the sense of radical honesty and openness between attendees and their parents.

Needless to say, phone calls were an entirely different story due to the potential for prime time manipulation (in layman's terms, they were wary of the emotion that could be conveyed through voice rather than writing); as a friend in program pointed out to me, "What are you going to do with a letter, put in parenthesis "crying deeply?!"

 :eek:
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Just how honest do you think this forced and/or strenuously recommended "radical honesty" can possibly be ... under the conditions orchestrated by a program?

eaglet:
The "Proficio" thread ends with Kimbal DeLaMar's (kids-WRA-Aspiro) latest venture "Bestnotes" viewtopic.php?f=9&t=27534&start=45  
I think that the "therapeutic" encouragement of "honesty" is a way to get material for blackmail. While they control the medium of communication they are collecting ammo.

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