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Teenager found dead at center
Ursus:
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"Teen who collapsed at residential treatment facility dies"
By TERRI LANGFORD
Copyright 2010 Houston Chronicle
Aug. 19, 2010, 8:52AM
The last line of the article: "Two months ago, the Chronicle and Tribune detailed how more than 250 confirmed incidents of abuse or neglect had occurred since 2008 at residential treatment facilities, where the state's most troubled foster care children are placed.
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So is this supposed to be out of line with Hospitals, Senior Living centers, Public Schools, DayCare Centers ect.......The record for well loved people with responsible parents going to hospitals, public schools and Day care centers is even worse for neglect and abuse. Just read the threads and posts from a month or two ago.
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Those >250 abuse case are discussed in the following thread, which starts off with a pertinent article by Terri Langford and Emily Ramshaw, of the Houston Chronicle and Texas Tribune, respectively:
KIDS CHOKED, STRIPPED, BEATEN AT FACILITIES
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We looked at this a couple of years ago, I believe……If we looked at abuse with the consideration of "all" reported instances programs would be considered extremely safe (which they are) and occurrences of abuse would be considered extremely rare in programs in comparison to other settings.
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Well, I guess ya musta just "overlooked" the pertinent details in this investigation, eh? :D
According to the database in question,
The database includes violations that were confirmed at Texas' licensed residential treatment centers over the last two years by inspectors from the Department of Family and Protective Services. Not all violations in that time period are included — just those Tribune researchers found to include abuse, neglect or serious mistreatment. The records analyzed come from the agency's licensing website. Incidents are not included on the website until the RTC has had its due process, or waived its rights.[/list]
Whooter:
I was not referring to this specific case or occurrence. I was referring to abuse in general and in response to DannyII's question. If we stepped back and looked at the larger picture programs would be among the safest.
In 2006, approximately 3.3 million reports involving 6 million children were made to Child Protective Services (CPS) agencies. Of these, 61.7% were accepted as needing further investigation, and, once evaluated, the investigations concluded that child abuse and neglect had affected approximately 905,000 children, with 16% of this total representing cases of substantiated physical abuse. The most common form of substantiated abuse in 2006 was child neglect, which accounted for 64.1% of cases, followed by child sexual abuse (8.8% of cases) and emotional maltreatment (6.6% of cases).
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Ursus if we documented and posted the abuse which occurs outside of programs we would need to post 2,480 occurrences per day, seven days a week 52 weeks a year to document them here on fornits
Thats 5 posts a minute every day 7 days a week at 8 hours a day. If we added elderly abuse we would have to document another 3 posts per minute every day 7 days a week at 8 hours a day. This would not include the time needed to research each occurrence and format them to appear properly here on the forum.
My point being not to minimize any abuse that occurs in programs but merely to place it into perspective and to caution not give the false impression that programs are unsafe.
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Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---My point being not to minimize any abuse that occurs in programs but merely to place it into perspective and to caution not give the false impression that programs are unsafe.
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Oh, but your point *IS* to minimize any abuse that occurs in programs. The "impression" that PROGRAMS ARE UNSAFE is a true one!
Anytime you practice coercion as a form of behavior modification, not to mention put kids in control of other kids' progress or punishment, you're gonna have some "unintended consequences." And that is assuming the best of circumstances.
wdtony:
@Whooter: If you are going by the numbers you will not have accurate data. This is because children in residential treatment mostly have no complaint procedure and don't have access to lodge complaints. If they achieve a level or progress they would not file a complaint due to the fact that they would be punished or set back, not to mention that most are brainwashed by that point and unable to understand the abuse they have suffered. Therefore, thousands of potential complaints are never heard or counted. The few that do get a complaint through are lucky to have gotten away or in other cases, unlucky to have died.
I don't have proof of this. Residential treatment programs refuse my requests to "see what they are doing inside" by speaking with the kids. Anyone can obviously see the problem with how these programs keep information from escaping to the public. But I know it happens, it happened in all Straight programs and from reports, the majority of residential treatment programs.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "wdtony" ---@Whooter: If you are going by the numbers you will not have accurate data. This is because children in residential treatment mostly have no complaint procedure and don't have access to lodge complaints. If they achieve a level or progress they would not file a complaint due to the fact that they would be punished or set back, not to mention that most are brainwashed by that point and unable to understand the abuse they have suffered. Therefore, thousands of potential complaints are never heard or counted. The few that do get a complaint through are lucky to have gotten away or in other cases, unlucky to have died.
I don't have proof of this. Residential treatment programs refuse my requests to "see what they are doing inside" by speaking with the kids. Anyone can obviously see the problem with how these programs keep information from escaping to the public. But I know it happens, it happened in all Straight programs and from reports, the majority of residential treatment programs.
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If a child is being abused they can tell their teacher or therapist the same as any other school. They can report this to their parents also when they speak. I don’t think that the numbers could be suppressed at all. But I do understand your thinking this way if you base your conclusion on program experiences like straight. I have spoken to kids inside of programs and they are nothing like straight, they don’t brainwash the kids and they have conduits to the outside via therapists and teachers who are bound to report abuse. They have parents and family on the outside who they can speak to and visit with.
Unlike programs of the past programs today have open doors and allow researchers and writers to come and go and follow students progress and report their findings in the form of study results, editorials and books. If there were evidence of brainwashing or abuse this would be uncovered.
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