Wow, DB. This is just an exercise in freaking futility. I'm not saying that some kids don't need help. I'm saying that abusive and demeaning methodology is not the answer. I also would have characterized the program as "positive" even though I SPLIT. Brainwash. I could NOT deal with the fact that all that emotional rape was for nothing. I can take it now. And no, I don't buy that a program reliant on fraudulent and unethical practices applied in systemic emotional warfare "saves lives." Even if you say so.
As far as Whooter is concerned, I think it's a bit hypocritical that you lambaste my words when I show far, far more restraint than most and CERTAINLY more than you do. The proof is in the pudding. I was silent about Whooter for years, but after watching the derailment and obfuscations recur in predictible patterns has affected my opinion of him. It's not paranoia or quick judgment. It's not even based on the idea that he differs in opinion. I am a little shocked that you haven't seen the obvious patterns. I think that if you were really honest, you might evaluate your own biases. It is a bit odd you exhibit exponential projective capacities.
You're kind of a moron for thinking I don't travel or expose myself to other walks of lives. I've lived in six states. I've traveled extensively in the US and abroad, including third world countries. I've worked at homeless shelters. I've taught at public schools. I've taught at runaway shelters. I actually prefer working with the "disadvantaged" kids.
I did not program myself to have a Pavlovian response to anything but people mitigating painful, horrific experiences.
And don't you dare fucking insinuate that I deserved to be in a program. You have no idea why I was there. I've never even shoplifted. Both my parents would say it was a mistake on their part. But frankly, the program I was in was a warehouse filled with kids from well to do families that were bored by the demands of parenting. I'm not saying that is true of every program, but it was common in mine.
In any event, cake can compensate for a lot, but not for sustained program BS.
And as far as Fornits being obligated to be bipartisan - more BS. This forum worked best when it was true haven for survivors and advocacy - unfortunately, this has dimished in the past few years. Pro program BS'ers can post their reunion raps somewhere else as far as I am concerned. Enjoy the cake.