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maruska:
Ursus, did you notice the comment from Cody?

Ursus:

--- Quote from: "maruska" ---Ursus, did you notice the comment from Cody?
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Yep. It's why I delayed posting this blog entry 'till after I got the articles posted re. the runaways being home safe and sound... for "context," you might say. Just didn't get around to posting the comments yesterday. Thanks for noticing!

Ursus:
The third comment below is from Cody Thompson, one of the runaways:

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Comments left for the above blog entry, "The Problems Mount For Pinehaven" (by David Krug; 07 August, 2010; Standing in Corners [blog])


Chelsie · 11. Aug, 2010 at 3:50 am
Pinehaven is a great place for troubled youth to go and I am sick of people not noticing all the work they have done for these kids. These kids just dont want to take responsibilty of their actions and are trying to close the place that has helped them the most. I just graduated from Pinehaven and I was there for over five and a half years. I never once saw any abuse. I am standing up for Pinehaven and I always will. They are a great program, including the pros and cons. No place is perfect and that is what most people like to do is point out the imperfections of others rather than work on their own.David Krug · 13. Aug, 2010 at 6:04 am
Chelsie,
While I respect your opinion. I do not believe in "Troubled Youth'. I believe there are certain kids that need more love, and more grace.

Maybe I needed more love and grace. I didnt need pushed down stairs, or hit by my chore truck.

And the girls who were raped they sure as hell didn't need that. So while I think its amazing you had a great experience. I think its foolish to blindly support anyone, or anything.

I know I'm not perfect but protecting children from these cycles of abuse at Pinehaven is my calling.

I wish you the best as you find yourself in life the first few years post Pinehaven are the hardest. Holler if you ever need anything. The alumni is like a family who will always be there for you.Cody Thomson · 17. Aug, 2010 at 10:36 pm
Every day was struggle for me from waking up in anther house to being forced to call somebody I didn't even know mom and dad. It was altogether depressing and uncomfortable.
I was in Foster Care for four years. Pine Haven is easily three times worse than Foster Care. Please don't send your kids there.
I wanted to be home more than anything else in the world. It was a constant struggle for me and unbearable. This is why I ran away.
On August 20 2010 I'll be going to court. Please pray for me. The court is trying to send me off again even though the three other runaways get to stay home.
They say my mom isn't a fit mom ,but I disagree because my mom came all the way to Montana to look for me. She never quit and I'm glad she didn't. She spent all of her money to bring me home with her. I love her to death. I could never ask for a better mom.David Krug · 18. Aug, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Cody,
Well you will always have a friend right here. Call, or write if you or your family ever need anything or you just want to talk. I wish you the best of luck man. Stay in touch.James P. Mason · 20. Sep, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Chelsie,

You state that you are standing up for Pinehaven, and always will. I must ask...will you stand up even if you find out that you're wrong?

You state that the "program" at Pinehaven is great, "including the pros and cons". Would you please mention some of these cons? I'd really like to know what you see as a "con". Have you attempted to fix these problems? Have you brought them up to the Larssons? If so, what was their response? If not, why not?

Oh...and what do you mean by "these kids"...do you even know who you are talking about?

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David Krug's new website about Pinehaven: http://davidkrug.org/pinehaven

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http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/27/u ... an-school/

Ungodly Discipline: Abuse accusations at a Christian school

March 27th, 2012
10:46 PM ET

[VIDEO]

Pinehaven Christian Children's Ranch in western Montana doesn't deny their use of "tough love" techniques on students. In the past, one house parent would apply pressure to the children's necks to control their behavior, a practice no longer permitted. Several former students and employees say they experienced  or witnessed physical and emotional abuse. Preacher Bob Larsson, who's been the school's owner for almost 40 years, denies the allegations and tells CNN's Gary Tuchman that their methods of discipline are not abusive.

Larson introduced several students who are thankful for their time at Pinehaven. Troy Baker said, "Tough love means separating people from drugs and alcohol and bad influences that brought them to pinehaven in the first place." Curtis Swanson says he never saw an abusive house parent.

Others claim that the abuse went beyond trying to discipline students to include difficult and dangerous construction jobs around the ranch. Larsson says those who didn't complete the work were punished, but not abused. When asked why he thinks some are alleging abuse, he told CNN he believes they are influenced by Satan.
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   Post by: Gary Tuchman
Filed under: Ungodly Discipline

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