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What Type of Kids "Succeeded" in Behrens Study?
Dysfunction Junction:
Still no evidence, I see. As long as we all know you just fabricated the information we can move forward with the discussion knowing that.
Whooter:
Here is another fact:
Of the 155 males who completed the YSR at admission and discharge, 81% of
adolescent males reported some amount or degree of symptom reduction.
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Residential Treatment Outcome-Study
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Dysfunction Junction:
--- Quote from: "Troll Control" ---
--- Quote from: "Behrens Study" ---These final results indicated that adolescents who
had lower levels of psycho-social symptoms at admission (adolescent report), the absence of a
mood disorder, a positive experience in the program, a sense that their problems had improved,
and parents who were satisfied with the program were more likely to report positive outcomes at
discharge from residential treatment.
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Well, there goes the "programs help kids with severe problems - too severe for local treatment" angle.
The kids who self-reported to have improved had no severe problems to begin with, no mood disorders and parents who were satisfied with their purchase.
So, the more or less "normal teens" showed improvement but the ones with real problems were pulled by their parents because they weren't improving or dropped from the program because they were accepted even though the program had no ability to help them (26% of participants).
Also keep in mind there has never been any follow up to determine if any of these results were lasting. Previous research has shown severe degradation of results beginning immediately after discharge.
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Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---
--- Quote from: "Troll Control" ---
--- Quote from: "Behrens Study" ---These final results indicated that adolescents who
had lower levels of psycho-social symptoms at admission (adolescent report), the absence of a
mood disorder, a positive experience in the program, a sense that their problems had improved,
and parents who were satisfied with the program were more likely to report positive outcomes at
discharge from residential treatment.
--- End quote ---
Well, there goes the "programs help kids with severe problems - too severe for local treatment" angle.
The kids who self-reported to have improved had no severe problems to begin with, no mood disorders and parents who were satisfied with their purchase.
So, the more or less "normal teens" showed improvement but the ones with real problems were pulled by their parents because they weren't improving or dropped from the program because they were accepted even though the program had no ability to help them (26% of participants).
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Kids with severe problems do not do very well in therapeutic boarding schools, if the schools can do a better job screening the kids prior to acceptance we will see these success rates go from the present 86% up into the 90% level. This would benefit the children and the parents.
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Dysfunction Junction:
--- Quote from: "Troll Control" ---If you look at the data, the kids who had to be "brought further long" were dropped from the program or pulled by their parents because the level of care they were sold wasn't evident. This accounts for 26% of the kids surveyed. 3% also completed the program but got worse.
Only 31% (compared with 60-80% of those in traditional treatment who were diagnosed with real mental issues) showed statistically relevent improvement (2 standard deviations of self-reported change) and those kids were the one's without any real problems. 97% had a primary presenting problem of "rule breaking."
In other words, these kids never needed to be placed. Aspen's "success rate" is two and a half times lower than traditional treatment even though the vast majority of the kids had no real issues (74%).
Aspen got rid of the kids with real problems (8%) and kept the ones who were easy to deal with, even though most didn't need to be there (74%). So they do keep kids that don't need to be there at all, provided they don't require any help and they just collect the checks.
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Very interesting revelations when you start to drill down into the reported data.
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