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What Type of Kids "Succeeded" in Behrens Study?
DannyB II:
--- Quote from: "Pile of Dead Kids" ---And now he's reduced to throwing out quotes from a "study" that was already thoroughly debunked.
The thing can say whatever it wants. It's not scientific, never was peer reviewed, relied on self-reporting, excluded portions of what would have been the sample, and the promised follow-up was simply never done. If you like, we can throw quotes from the Eddas at you to tell you all about how the world is grown from the tree Yggdrasil. It has exactly as much scientific weight.
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I would love to make babies with you under the "world tree" and have you quote Edda to me. We will create scientific weight.
Pile of shit:
--- Quote from: "DannyB II" ---
--- Quote from: "Pile of Dead Kids" ---And now he's reduced to throwing out quotes from a "study" that was already thoroughly debunked.
The thing can say whatever it wants. It's not scientific, never was peer reviewed, relied on self-reporting, excluded portions of what would have been the sample, and the promised follow-up was simply never done. If you like, we can throw quotes from the Eddas at you to tell you all about how the world is grown from the tree Yggdrasil. It has exactly as much scientific weight.
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I would love to make babies with you under the "world tree" and have you quote Edda to me. We will create scientific weight.
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Is this Danny 1, 2 or 3? :roflmao: :roflmao:
Troll Control:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---
--- Quote from: "Behrens Study" ---These final results indicated that adolescents who
had lower levels of psycho-social symptoms at admission (adolescent report), the absence of a
mood disorder, a positive experience in the program, a sense that their problems had improved,
and parents who were satisfied with the program were more likely to report positive outcomes at
discharge from residential treatment.
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Well, there goes the "programs help kids with severe problems - too severe for local treatment" angle.
The kids who self-reported to have improved had no severe problems to begin with, no mood disorders and parents who were satisfied with their purchase.
So, the more or less "normal teens" showed improvement but the ones with real problems were pulled by their parents because they weren't improving or dropped from the program because they were accepted even though the program had no ability to help them (26% of participants).
Also keep in mind there has never been any follow up to determine if any of these results were lasting. Previous research has shown severe degradation of results beginning immediately after discharge.
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Easy with the trolling, Danny. We have a topic here.
DannyB II:
--- Quote from: "Pile of shit" ---
--- Quote from: "DannyB II" ---
--- Quote from: "Pile of Dead Kids" ---And now he's reduced to throwing out quotes from a "study" that was already thoroughly debunked.
The thing can say whatever it wants. It's not scientific, never was peer reviewed, relied on self-reporting, excluded portions of what would have been the sample, and the promised follow-up was simply never done. If you like, we can throw quotes from the Eddas at you to tell you all about how the world is grown from the tree Yggdrasil. It has exactly as much scientific weight.
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I would love to make babies with you under the "world tree" and have you quote Edda to me. We will create scientific weight.
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Is this Danny 1, 2 or 3? :roflmao: :roflmao:
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I was asked to stop spamming and I will respect that wish.
Troll Control:
Thanks, bro. Much appreciated. Back to the topic at hand...
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---
--- Quote from: "Behrens Study" ---These final results indicated that adolescents who
had lower levels of psycho-social symptoms at admission (adolescent report), the absence of a
mood disorder, a positive experience in the program, a sense that their problems had improved,
and parents who were satisfied with the program were more likely to report positive outcomes at
discharge from residential treatment.
--- End quote ---
Well, there goes the "programs help kids with severe problems - too severe for local treatment" angle.
The kids who self-reported to have improved had no severe problems to begin with, no mood disorders and parents who were satisfied with their purchase.
So, the more or less "normal teens" showed improvement but the ones with real problems were pulled by their parents because they weren't improving or dropped from the program because they were accepted even though the program had no ability to help them (26% of participants).
Also keep in mind there has never been any follow up to determine if any of these results were lasting. Previous research has shown severe degradation of results beginning immediately after discharge.
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