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What Type of Kids "Succeeded" in Behrens Study?
Whooter:
The “typical” client in the programs is a white, upper-middle to upper-class,
16 year old male or female with prior treatment failures, who is functioning below average
academically and has multiple psycho-social problems. The most common problems treated are
disruptive behavior, substance use, and mood disorders. Most adolescents do not have a legal
record.
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Troll Control:
Whooter, show us the follow up report from phase two. How did these kids do one year out? More "treatment failures"?
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Epic lulz... Where's that PHASE TWO, Whooter?
Putting kids into programs makes them worse, according to actual researchers using proper methodology and a control group, unlike Behrens:
--- Quote ---The finding that affiliation with deviant peers is associated with increased delinquent behavior is supported in much of the literature on juvenile delinquency (Gifford-Smith et al., 2005). There is a growing consensus regarding the negative impact of treating homogenous groups of youths manifesting antisocial or delinquent behavior (Hoag & Burlingame, 1997). There have been several reports in the literature supporting the potential harmfulness of group intervention for youth manifesting antisocial behavior.
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You are quoting studies (with no links) about kids who are delinquents. You are mixing up the demographics. Your typical kid who attends an Aspen Program does not have a record. Here is a description:
The “typical” client in the programs is a white, upper-middle to upper-class,
16 year old male or female with prior treatment failures, who is functioning below average
academically and has multiple psycho-social problems. The most common problems treated are
disruptive behavior, substance use, and mood disorders. Most adolescents do not have a legal
record.
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Troll Control:
Those studies say that aggregating deviant teens increases delinquency. Probably a lot of those kids in Behrens' study ended up in jail after the program.
Where's that follow up that was finished in 2007? I'd like to see those results.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Those studies say that aggregating deviant teens increases delinquency. Probably a lot of those kids in Behrens' study ended up in jail after the program.
Where's that follow up that was finished in 2007? I'd like to see those results.
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Thats better. You really cant compare the two. The majority of kids in Aspen Programs never went to jail/juvy and most 80%+? ( I think) had failed previous treatment of some type locally prior to being placed. If we compared the kids who left the program to those in a normal cross section of teens it would be interesting to see if they remained normal or had deviated from the norm as far as delinquency goes (got better or worse or remained the same).
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