What Type of Kids "Succeeded" in Behrens Study?

[Whooter]

The kids wouldn't be suffering if their parents did their jobs in the first place.

I disagree, sometimes kids do not respond well to local services.

But they do respond to responsible parenting.  Which was my original point, which you ignored.  Shocking!  

Not all kids do, Anne, some kids need help outside the home and others need help outside the scope of local services.  

And those are the ones who need TRUE help.....not quackery from pseudo-"scientists" or pseudo-"therapists".

Exactly, I think we agree here.  If they are not getting the TRUE help that they need locally then it is good parenting to look outside the local area to get help for your child.  The parents should not just throw up their hands and say "Oh well Anne Bonney says we should not look outside our local area for help, lets just hope for the best and keep the child at home.".

Do you see what I mean?



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[Anne Bonney]

Exactly, I think we agree here.  If they are not getting the TRUE help that they need locally then it is good parenting to look outside the local area to get help for your child.  The parents should not just throw up their hands and say "Oh well Anne Bonney says we should not look outside our local area for help, lets just hope for the best and keep the child at home.".

You are really getting tiresome.  Get some new material.

Do you see what I mean?

No

[Whooter]

Back on topic:


Along with the 60-80% success rate:


The majority of adolescents were treated for multiple problems (85.5%). The most frequent treatment foci were disruptive
behavior disorders (44%), substance use disorders (36%), and mood disorder (31%) (percentages
did not total 100% because participants could have more than one problem).

So 85.5% of the kids were there for multiple reasons and 8% of the kids the program felt would not be successful and they were discharged early.



Residential Treatment Outcome-Study



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[Dysfunction Junction]

Exactly, I think we agree here.  If they are not getting the TRUE help that they need locally then it is good parenting to look outside the local area to get help for your child.  The parents should not just throw up their hands and say "Oh well Anne Bonney says we should not look outside our local area for help, lets just hope for the best and keep the child at home.".

You are really getting tiresome.  Get some new material.

Do you see what I mean?

No

Me neither.  It's a wearisome game.  Hopefully it will all be over very soon.

[Whooter]

Me neither.  It's a wearisome game.  Hopefully it will all be over very soon.

If you both focus and try to stay on topic it will not be as confusing, it is not that difficult.  You guys do this to yourselves.



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[Whooter]

Here is another snippet:

Of the 203 female adolescents who completed the ASR at admission and discharge, 90% reported
some degree or amount of symptom reduction. Of that, 48% reported improvement that exceeds
the cut-off for reliable change (>29 raw score points) and 42% reported improvement below the
cut-off for reliable change (<29 raw score points).

Page 9 again:

Residential Treatment Outcome-Study



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[Dysfunction Junction]

You can always tell who the industry plants/trolls/shills are by watching their responses.  They always respond immediately with repetetive spamming of their handlers' website.  This thread is a good example.

[Whooter]

The majority of adolescents were treated for multiple problems (85.5%). The most frequent treatment foci were disruptive
behavior disorders (44%), substance use disorders (36%), and mood disorder (31%) (percentages
did not total 100% because participants could have more than one problem).

So 85.5% of the kids were there for multiple reasons and 8% of the kids the program felt would not be successful and they were discharged early.



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[Dysfunction Junction]

Nonstop shilling ensues...

[Whooter]

Of the 107 parents of male adolescents who completed the CBCL at admission and discharge,
97% of the parents of adolescent males reported some degree or amount of symptom reduction.
Of that, 85% reported improvement that exceed the cut-off for reliable change (> 21 raw score
points) and 12% reported improvement below the cut-off for reliable change (<21 raw score
points).

This was also on Page 9 of the Independent Study



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[Dysfunction Junction]

And the shilling continues...

[Whooter]

The majority (89%) reported symptoms at discharge that
qualify them as “recovered”, because scores exceeded the cut-off score (raw score 45). Eighty-
nine percent of male adolescents exceeded cut-off scores on both measures of clinical
significance suggesting that the reported change in symptoms was both of sufficient quantity and
quality that it is considered clinically meaningful.

Page 9 of the Independent Study of Therapeutic Boarding Schools



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[Dysfunction Junction]

Continuous spamming of the same tired material...

[Whooter]

The “typical” client in the programs is a white, upper-middle to upper-class,
16 year old male or female with prior treatment failures, who is functioning below average
academically and has multiple psycho-social problems. The most common problems treated are
disruptive behavior, substance use, and mood disorders. Most adolescents do not have a legal
record.



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[Anne Bonney]

Isn't this called "Flooding"?  Repeating the exact same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over again?