Does anyone know what happened with Morgan?

[anythinganyone]

I'm quite curious.

It's also pretty verifiable she's a real person, right? I get the impression it's extremely unlikely she isn't.

[Whooter]

I'm quite curious.

It's also pretty verifiable she's a real person, right? I get the impression it's extremely unlikely she isn't.

anythinganyone,  Its nice that you care enough to remember, Morgan is a real person (a 15 year old girl) who came to fornits for help and information on the Troubled Teen Industry.  Her parents were considering  Academy at Sisters.  She trusted a few people here (Nihilanthic, Pile of Dead kids and Joel), who post here frequently, and instead of trying to help her they posted all her personal information…... Name, address, phone number on a pornographic internet site that included graphic pictures of people engaging in oral sex, anal sex and links to prostitution sites.  They ran this girl into the ground just for personal pleasure.  I cant imagine how she felt with her parents and friends seeing that and her name linked to that site.  So I don’t think she will be coming back.

I think it is a shame that kids get this type of treatment here on fornits for just trying to reach out.  Out of all the posters here on fornits maybe 1 or two spoke  out and expressed their disgust that it was wrong.  The rest just sat by quietly and watched this young girl get destroyed and her life put in jeopardy.

But they are doing fine and have taken their discussion off line  (probably permanently)

I think it would be prudent to warn other newcomers of this danger when they come here for help.  Maybe the admins could post something.



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[Samara]

Whooter has it a bit inversed - the vast majority are appalled by a post on another site by 1-2 others.   (At least one not being a program survivor.) Hopefully, M's parents were able to make an informed decision.  In any event, I think we all hope that Morgan is emotionally, physically, and psychologically safe ... and free.

[Whooter]

Whooter has it a bit inversed - the vast majority are appalled by a post on another site by 1-2 others.   (At least one not being a program survivor.) Hopefully, M's parents were able to make an informed decision.  In any event, I think we all hope that Morgan is emotionally, physically, and psychologically safe ... and free.

Then you were not here, Samara.  They posted her name and address and phone number on a porn site.  I will send you the link via PM (but will not post it here) if you want.  Nihilanthic, Pile of Dead kids and Joel... Joel might be a survivor but the others are not I dont believe.

  Its about making programs  look bad at all costs even if you need to put kids at risk to try to make a point.



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[Samara]

I didn't stick up for them lame ass. So stop lying. In fact, I was VERY upset by that post on ED - I protested it.  I do NOT need to see it again, in PM or anywhere. But I was NOT the only person who was angry about it. Many of us were.  This is where you prevaricate - by pretending you and maybe one other person was upset by it. No sane person would endorse or condone that post.

[Samara]

You absolutely digust me, Whooter, by lying about my "smoothing it over." I did NO such thing.

In any event, I can't blame Morgan or her parents for taking their inquiry off site, and this is why I am upset with actions on ED. I still hope that she and her parents are making conscientious choices.  She seemd like a very insightful, intelligent, independent minded person.  The world doesn't always welcome that in a kid.

[Ursus]

Whooter has it a bit inversed - the vast majority are appalled by a post on another site by 1-2 others.   (At least one not being a program survivor.) Hopefully, M's parents were able to make an informed decision.  In any event, I think we all hope that Morgan is emotionally, physically, and psychologically safe ... and free.

Then you were not here, Samara.  They posted her name and address and phone number on a porn site.  I will send you the link via PM (but will not post it here) if you want.  Nihilanthic, Pile of Dead kids and Joel... Joel might be a survivor but the others are not I dont believe.

Its funny how you stick up for these people and how the truth comes out that its really not about the kids for many here.  Its about making programs  look bad at all costs even if you need to put kids at risk to try to make a point.

If people were appalled then show us the posts.  They were afraid to speak out here on fornits for fear they would be viewed as pro program.  The people who did this to her were cowards and it was wrong and the people who stayed quiet are just as bad, but you come on here to defend them,Samara.

Sure, Samara, say I had it wrong to Morgan and her family who have to endure what happened while you smooth it over.

I'd say that your characterization is a bit unfair, Whooter, not to mention all the patently false statements you've woven into it. Quite a few folks expressed their concern over that whole situation in this thread:

Looks like somebody posted Morgan's parents to ED
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30782[/list]

[DannyB II]

Whooter has it a bit inversed - the vast majority are appalled by a post on another site by 1-2 others.   (At least one not being a program survivor.) Hopefully, M's parents were able to make an informed decision.  In any event, I think we all hope that Morgan is emotionally, physically, and psychologically safe ... and free.

Then you were not here, Samara.  They posted her name and address and phone number on a porn site.  I will send you the link via PM (but will not post it here) if you want.  Nihilanthic, Pile of Dead kids and Joel... Joel might be a survivor but the others are not I dont believe.

Its funny how you stick up for these people and how the truth comes out that its really not about the kids for many here.  Its about making programs  look bad at all costs even if you need to put kids at risk to try to make a point.

If people were appalled then show us the posts.  They were afraid to speak out here on fornits for fear they would be viewed as pro program.  The people who did this to her were cowards and it was wrong and the people who stayed quiet are just as bad, but you come on here to defend them,Samara.

Sure, Samara, say I had it wrong to Morgan and her family who have to endure what happened while you smooth it over.

I'd say that your characterization is a bit unfair, Whooter, not to mention all the patently false statements you've woven into it. Quite a few folks expressed their concern over that whole situation in this thread:

Looks like somebody posted Morgan's parents to ED
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30782[/list]

Oh ya, you folks were just burning up, please Ursus save yourself your soul is on fire.
Samara you are absolutely right, I do remember you being shocked by all this crap, whooter
she did feel this was profoundly wrong.

[Whooter]

I'd say that your characterization is a bit unfair, Whooter, not to mention all the patently false statements you've woven into it. Quite a few folks expressed their concern over that whole situation in this thread:

Looks like somebody posted Morgan's parents to ED
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30782[/list]

From your link, Ursus, in order of who responded:

Oscar was clearly upset

Froderick baled out and ran off.

DannyII  was pissed

Anne Bonney filled her post with laughing figures becuase someone said they would sue and then said it was uncool.

Inculcated was upset  and she says it is uncool, but takes a shot at the parents.

Ursus  Uncool

Kleenex badgers morgan even more

Pile of shit bails out

Paul St. John said it was stupid thing to do

Samara was upset more than most others  (I reverse my rage with her)

Dysfunction Junction Tries to stand up for Pile of Dead Kids but says it is bad behavior

Awake was upset

Niles thinks it is funny and post more pictures

Che gookin tells everyone to quit complaining

So 14 people besides myself posted...

 5 were upset

2 erased their post and ran off.

4 felt it was..un-cool, dick move, bad behavior

the rest thought it was funny, abused her more or didnt care.

Now, imagine if this was a child who was abused inside a program.  What do you think the reaction would be?  Do you think we would hear... UnCool... bad behavior.... dick move?    How many people on fornits reported this abuse here?  how many just pushed it under the carpet?  Should fornits have regulation to prevent further abuse like Morgan received?

Do you really feel that people were outraged here?  Is it kids being abused in programs that really drives this site or is it a hatred of the program they attended?

Look at the posts and give it some thought.



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[Whooter]

You absolutely digust me, Whooter, by lying about my "smoothing it over." I did NO such thing.

In any event, I can't blame Morgan or her parents for taking their inquiry off site, and this is why I am upset with actions on ED. I still hope that she and her parents are making conscientious choices.  She seemd like a very insightful, intelligent, independent minded person.  The world doesn't always welcome that in a kid.

Samara, I apologize for my previous posts.  I was thinking of another poster.



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[Ursus]

I'd say that your characterization is a bit unfair, Whooter, not to mention all the patently false statements you've woven into it. Quite a few folks expressed their concern over that whole situation in this thread:

Looks like somebody posted Morgan's parents to ED
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30782[/list]

From you link, Ursus, in order of who responded:

Oscar was clearly upset

Froderick baled out and ran off.

DannyII  was pissed

Anne Bonney filled her post with laughing figures becuase someone said they would sue and then said it was uncool.

Inculcated was upset  and she says it is uncool, but takes a shot at the parents.

Kleenex badgers morgan even more

Pile of shit bails out

Paul St. John said it was stupid thing to do

Samara was upset more than most others  (I reverse my rage with her)

Dysfunction Junction Tries to stand up for Pile of Dead Kids but says it is bad behavior

Awake was upset

Niles thinks it is funny and post more pictures

Che gookin tells everyone to quit complaining

So 13 people besides myself posted...

 5 were upset

2 erased their post and ran off.

3  felt it was..un-cool, dick move, bad behavior

the rest thought it was funny, abused her more or didnt care.

Now, imagine if this was a child who was abused inside a program.  What do you think the reaction would be?  Do you think we would hear... UnCool... bad behavior.... dick move?    How many people on fornits reported this abuse here?  how many just pushed it under the carpet?  Should fornits have regulation to prevent further abuse like Morgan received?

Do you really feel that people were outraged here?  Is it kids being abused in programs that really drives this site or is it a hatred of the program they attended?

Look at the posts and give it some thought.

Oh, I've looked at the posts. Outside of the fact that that thread, at least initially before it went off on another tangent, contains far more expression of concern than your initial assertion of "out of all the posters here on fornits maybe 1 or two spoke out and expressed their disgust that it was wrong. The rest just sat by quietly and watched this young girl get destroyed and her life put in jeopardy," you conveniently omitted my post... lol, fancy that. So... my guess is either that you haven't read that thread carefully enough, or that you tend to read quite selectively.

Moreover, I would also like to add that your outrage seems peculiarly convenient, given your pro-program marketing stance, along with the fact that you tend to dismiss most allegations of abuse that some folks have already experienced in programs as having been "fabricated," not to mention laughable, e.g., as illustrated in the following exchange:

Not enough duct tape for ya?

Ha,Ha,Ha you have been here for awhile!! Remember that guy who claimed he was duct  taped from head to toe and then carried down to the ocean during a monsoon and thrown in!!! Talk about trying to get attention. Looking back now I think if he toned his story down a little and told us he was forced to carry wood around or study for hours on end he would have got a few people to believe him. But I do think that is the overall classic fabricated story I have heard here.

[Whooter]

I'd say that your characterization is a bit unfair, Whooter, not to mention all the patently false statements you've woven into it. Quite a few folks expressed their concern over that whole situation in this thread:

Looks like somebody posted Morgan's parents to ED
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30782[/list]

From you link, Ursus, in order of who responded:

Oscar was clearly upset

Froderick baled out and ran off.

DannyII  was pissed

Anne Bonney filled her post with laughing figures becuase someone said they would sue and then said it was uncool.

Inculcated was upset  and she says it is uncool, but takes a shot at the parents.

Kleenex badgers morgan even more

Pile of shit bails out

Paul St. John said it was stupid thing to do

Samara was upset more than most others  (I reverse my rage with her)

Dysfunction Junction Tries to stand up for Pile of Dead Kids but says it is bad behavior

Awake was upset

Niles thinks it is funny and post more pictures

Che gookin tells everyone to quit complaining

So 13 people besides myself posted...

 5 were upset

2 erased their post and ran off.

3  felt it was..un-cool, dick move, bad behavior

the rest thought it was funny, abused her more or didnt care.

Now, imagine if this was a child who was abused inside a program.  What do you think the reaction would be?  Do you think we would hear... UnCool... bad behavior.... dick move?    How many people on fornits reported this abuse here?  how many just pushed it under the carpet?  Should fornits have regulation to prevent further abuse like Morgan received?

Do you really feel that people were outraged here?  Is it kids being abused in programs that really drives this site or is it a hatred of the program they attended?

Look at the posts and give it some thought.

Oh, I've looked at the posts. Outside of the fact that that thread, at least initially before it went off on another tangent, contains far more expression of concern than your initial assertion of "out of all the posters here on fornits maybe 1 or two spoke out and expressed their disgust that it was wrong. The rest just sat by quietly and watched this young girl get destroyed and her life put in jeopardy," you conveniently omitted my post... lol, fancy that. So... my guess is either that you haven't read that thread carefully enough, or that you tend to read quite selectively.

Moreover, I would also like to add that your outrage seems peculiarly convenient, given your pro-program marketing stance, along with the fact that you tend to dismiss most allegations of abuse that some folks have already experienced in programs as having been "fabricated," not to mention laughable, e.g., as illustrated in the following exchange:

Not enough duct tape for ya?

Ha,Ha,Ha you have been here for awhile!! Remember that guy who claimed he was duct  taped from head to toe and then carried down to the ocean during a monsoon and thrown in!!! Talk about trying to get attention. Looking back now I think if he toned his story down a little and told us he was forced to carry wood around or study for hours on end he would have got a few people to believe him. But I do think that is the overall classic fabricated story I have heard here.

I did go back and add your post in, Ursus, you must have missed it while you were posting this one.

I did think that was funny it was a classic. He blew his credibility it when he mentioned the monsoon and the duct tape.  Wow that was like 4 years ago.....But Morgans post was a real story.  I dont think anyone posting thought that Morgan wasn't real.  At least not from the posts that I read.  I hope you are not trying to play that angle.  The ED alone shows that Morgan and her family was a real story.



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[DannyB II]

I'd say that your characterization is a bit unfair, Whooter, not to mention all the patently false statements you've woven into it. Quite a few folks expressed their concern over that whole situation in this thread:

Looks like somebody posted Morgan's parents to ED
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30782[/list]

From you link, Ursus, in order of who responded:

Oscar was clearly upset

Froderick baled out and ran off.

DannyII  was pissed

Anne Bonney filled her post with laughing figures becuase someone said they would sue and then said it was uncool.

Inculcated was upset  and she says it is uncool, but takes a shot at the parents.

Kleenex badgers morgan even more

Pile of shit bails out

Paul St. John said it was stupid thing to do

Samara was upset more than most others  (I reverse my rage with her)

Dysfunction Junction Tries to stand up for Pile of Dead Kids but says it is bad behavior

Awake was upset

Niles thinks it is funny and post more pictures

Che gookin tells everyone to quit complaining

So 13 people besides myself posted...

 5 were upset

2 erased their post and ran off.

3  felt it was..un-cool, dick move, bad behavior

the rest thought it was funny, abused her more or didnt care.

Now, imagine if this was a child who was abused inside a program.  What do you think the reaction would be?  Do you think we would hear... UnCool... bad behavior.... dick move?    How many people on fornits reported this abuse here?  how many just pushed it under the carpet?  Should fornits have regulation to prevent further abuse like Morgan received?

Do you really feel that people were outraged here?  Is it kids being abused in programs that really drives this site or is it a hatred of the program they attended?

Look at the posts and give it some thought.

Oh, I've looked at the posts. Outside of the fact that that thread, at least initially before it went off on another tangent, contains far more expression of concern than your initial assertion of "out of all the posters here on fornits maybe 1 or two spoke out and expressed their disgust that it was wrong. The rest just sat by quietly and watched this young girl get destroyed and her life put in jeopardy," you conveniently omitted my post... lol, fancy that. So... my guess is either that you haven't read that thread carefully enough, or that you tend to read quite selectively.

Moreover, I would also like to add that your outrage seems peculiarly convenient, given your pro-program marketing stance, along with the fact that you tend to dismiss most allegations of abuse that some folks have already experienced in programs as having been "fabricated," not to mention laughable, e.g., as illustrated in the following exchange:

Not enough duct tape for ya?

Ha,Ha,Ha you have been here for awhile!! Remember that guy who claimed he was duct  taped from head to toe and then carried down to the ocean during a monsoon and thrown in!!! Talk about trying to get attention. Looking back now I think if he toned his story down a little and told us he was forced to carry wood around or study for hours on end he would have got a few people to believe him. But I do think that is the overall classic fabricated story I have heard here.

Ursus do you ever get bored with your lame posts. The post you threw up there to discredit whooter was a hoax, the poster lied. Kind of goes towards are whole point of posters here will do anything to get attention.
Morgan thread, if this is a hoax, would pretty much be a slam dunk in convincing most that fornits is a big joke (I don't think that). So either way your cooked.
You my friend ran and hid from this, I'm sure wondering about the fallout but also because you got scared. Your part of the Admin crew....lol.

[Ursus]

I did go back and add your post in, Ursus, you must have missed it while you were posting this one.

Actually, you went back and edited that in three minutes after my post, not that it matters much or that I even much cared in the first place. It was your inaccurate representation of the response here in its entirety that I was most focused on.

I did think that was funny it was a classic. He blew his credibility it when he mentioned the monsoon and the duct tape. Wow that was like 4 years ago.....But Morgans post was a real story. I dont think anyone posting thought that Morgan wasn't real. At least not from the posts that I read. I hope you are not trying to play that angle. The ED alone shows that Morgan and her family was a real story.

I'm not sure what you're trying to insinuate here, but I found both stories quite believable.

[Ursus]

The post you threw up there to discredit whooter was a hoax, the poster lied.

And you would know this... how? Do you know the poster personally? And yet you make so much noise here on the threads, averring charges of slander on the part of others. Lol.

Incidentally, this incident was posted about long before you chose to grace us with your eruditions.