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Whooter:
The info you were looking for earlier

From WIRBs' website:

The IRB also reviews the consent form (which they did for the Aspen Study)  for the research to make sure that it is accurate. If it approves the research, the IRB continues to review the ongoing research after it starts. (This is called oversight).

So based on WIRBs own practices Standard procedure is that WIRB continues to review the ongoing study after it reviews the consent form and gives them a  "Certificate of approval"



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DannyB II:

--- Quote from: "Froderik" ---I'm as stoned as an old testament hooker in a synagogue full of rabbis.
--- End quote ---

maybe a female adulterer at the center of a mosque, with the Talibanny.

Whooter:
As far as the math issue goes:


--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---The majority of subjects were in programs only six months, that is, pulled early against program protestations.

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I didnt see your conclusion that: "the majority of the subjects were in the program only six months" in the body of the study.  I am interested to know how you derived it or this is concluded in the study or not.  

 Here is a quote from the study from Page 6 para. 3:

The study states:
The average length of stay was 8.6 months for those discharged with maximum benefit
and 6.5 months for who were discharged with partial benefit or against program advice. The
majority discharged with program approval: 53% with maximum benefit, 19% prematurely but
with approval, 15% against program advice, 8% needed treatment beyond the scope of the
program, and 3% “other” discharge status.



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Troll Control:
Oops!  Whooter got caught quoting Google docs instead of WIRB's policy and now he's angry!  You got caught with your hand in the cookie jar again, buddy.  I can see how upset you are from the big, red typrface.  Just making it big and red doesn't make it true.  

I quoted the WIRB policy and it clearly states that "continuing review" is for "clinical trials" which this study is not.  Now you're going to cry over being snagged again. :cry:   They do not do continuing review for studies that aren't clinical trials, period.


--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---the childs name is being recorded along with an identifier
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Really?  How could you know this?  Recording is not obtaining, mind you.  Recording is done by the researcher, not the subject.  You just made that up like most of the things you say.

Whooter:

--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---Oops!  Whooter got caught quoting Google docs instead of WIRB's policy and now he's angry!  You got caught with your hand in the cookie jar again, buddy.  I can see how upset you are from the big, red typrface.  Just making it big and red doesn't make it true.  

I quoted the WIRB policy and it clearly states that "continuing review" is for "clinical trials" which this study is not.  Now you're going to cry over being snagged again. :cry:   They do not do continuing review for studies that aren't clinical trials, period.
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Oh DJ, grow up.  The quote was from WIRBs' website : lol

What is an IRB and what does it have to do with research?

........The IRB also reviews the consent form (which they did for the Aspen Study)  for the research to make sure that it is accurate. If it approves the research, the IRB continues to review the ongoing research after it starts. (This is called oversight).

So based on WIRBs own practices Standard procedure is that WIRB continues to review the ongoing study after it reviews the consent form and gives them a  "Certificate of approval"



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