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Aspen Education's Systematic Child Abuse
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Dysfunction Junction" ---In other words, you have no such statement form Oregon DHS. You made it up like you do everything else.
Reminder: MBA is CLOSED. If they did nothing wrong, they would be OPEN and the winners of a big lawsuit to boot.
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No way, the bad press did damage to MBA's name. If they reopen I would imagine they would do so under a new name. But I wouldn't expect that to happen until the economy turns around they still have open beds in the other facilities. Again read the news article and decide for yourself. If you feel differently that what is written then you have that right. But personally I am going with what the paper reported on this matter.
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Dysfunction Junction:
Translation: "I'm talking out of my ass and have no source documents."
Thanks for playing. Come back when you have some value to add. We can wait for you to post documents originating from DHS that prove your point. Until then, you're just the same old source with no credibility. Sorry. Source documents or it never happened.
Whooter:
Here is the link to the article that I have formed my opinion on and base my argument on:
Link
Everyone is free to interpret it as they will. But in my opinion it is important to get the facts out to the readers and let them decide for themselves. I think we can all agree with this.
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Whooter:
I am not sure what marketing material you are talking about. What I was quoting came from a newspaper article. This one here:
Link to News article
Each side made a statement which is customary
Erinn Kelley-Siel, Director of Children, Adults and Families at Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS) made a statement and then Phil Herschman, President of Aspen Education Group made a statement. How can ErinnSiels response be okay to post but not Phil Herschmans?
I think the problem is that Troll Control does not like this part of the article:
--- Quote ---We are pleased that the ongoing legal dispute between Mount Bachelor Academy (MBA) and the State of Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS) has finally been satisfactorily resolved. The DHS has agreed to withdraw or modify all of its actions against MBA and MBA’s former director. The DHS’ withdrawal of its order suspending MBA’s license supports our position that they did not have justification for that order in the first place. The DHS has acknowledged with this settlement that in fact there was additional evidence no abuse had occurred.
As we have repeatedly stated throughout this process, our fundamental disagreements with the DHS' original allegations and consequent actions were strong and deep. We had collected abundant evidence that disproved those allegations, particularly the most egregious ones.
Despite the tragic circumstances of Mount Bachelor’s closure, we hope to open a new, even more successful school on the MBA campus in the future, and wish to publicly thank our skilled and dedicated employees who touched the lives of thousands of troubled teens for more than two decades at MBA, and the loyal alumni and families who steadfastly supported us.
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But I think it is important to look at both sides and focus on what the outcome of the investigation was. I think this makes for a good discussion and debate.
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Ursus:
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--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---Whooter, that's nothing more than a press release from Aspen Ed. I'm asking you for the original citation where you say that the State 'revised' their original statement. Can you or can you not provide that?
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---A statement from Phil Herschman, President of Aspen Education Group, on behalf of Mount Bachelor Academy:
We are pleased that the ongoing legal dispute between Mount Bachelor Academy (MBA) and the State of Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS) has finally been satisfactorily resolved. The DHS has agreed to withdraw or modify all of its actions against MBA and MBA’s former director. The DHS’ withdrawal of its order suspending MBA’s license supports our position that they did not have justification for that order in the first place. The DHS has acknowledged with this settlement that in fact there was additional evidence no abuse had occurred.
As we have repeatedly stated throughout this process, our fundamental disagreements with the DHS' original allegations and consequent actions were strong and deep. We had collected abundant evidence that disproved those allegations, particularly the most egregious ones.
Despite the tragic circumstances of Mount Bachelor’s closure, we hope to open a new, even more successful school on the MBA campus in the future, and wish to publicly thank our skilled and dedicated employees who touched the lives of thousands of troubled teens for more than two decades at MBA, and the loyal alumni and families who steadfastly supported us.
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If you read the newspaper article it covers what the state of Oregon had to say on MBA and what Aspen Ed had to say in the same article. I have to go with what the news media in Oregon reported on the issue for now. If you want to believe something else that is fine. I am just reporting the facts and I provided links to support my point of view.
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No, you're not. You're stating your opinion and trying to back it up by quoting a press release from Aspen Ed.
Where's the statement from the State of Oregon saying they're backing off their claims?????
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Here's the pertinent thread; it contains the article that Whooter linked to above:
DHS, Mount Bachelor Academy Settle Case · viewtopic.php?f=48&t=31526[/list]
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