Looks like somebody posted Morgan's parents to ED

[Anne Bonney]

The point is that the parents dont think they are doing anything wrong, but someone else does so that gives them the right to post their private information.  In the boat analogy you dont think you are doing anything wrong but an environmentalist may think you are so that gives them the right to post your private information publicly.

Hmmmm......And yet still none of it involves a minor.   King. Of. Bad. Analogies.

[DannyB II]

Anne, once again you waltz into a thread like a princess thinking what you have to say 1) is worth listening to, 2) anyone wants to even respond and 3) what was your name??
Oh that's right,"??"

[Pile of shit]

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[Whooter]

The point is that the parents dont think they are doing anything wrong, but someone else does so that gives them the right to post their private information.  In the boat analogy you dont think you are doing anything wrong but an environmentalist may think you are so that gives them the right to post your private information publicly.

Hmmmm......And yet still none of it involves a minor.   King. Of. Bad. Analogies.

lol... you have no concept of analogies, Anne, never mind.

Analogy: I have a friend who is as honest as Abe Lincoln.  They call him honest Abe
Anne Bonney: Your friend isnt a president so how does that apply?  Thats a bad analogy.



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[DannyB II]

@ Who while I'm sure this turn of events came like Christmas in July for you spin troll, that was my PM from last night that the class act included on that ED link.

Thanks Inculcate, the only time you post is to hurl a insult at Whooter, Bravo. Thanks for your support.

[kleenex]

MORGAN TELL ME IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE FOLLOWING, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU DO:

Once you get to Academy at Sisters, or once you are "escorted" to Academy at Sisters, you will NOT BE ALLOWED TO LEAVE.

You will be physically prevented from leaving.

Do you understand that?

You are walking into a prison which you will not be able to leave of your own accord.
You will be physically prevented from escaping through retraints, guarding, locks, and any other number of means. Eventually, (very possibly) you will be not be able to leave because of psychological damage.

You can be kept as there as long as your parents want you there, FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, possibly.

But, at least, and without any need for legal finangaling, until you are 18.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS?

If a child breaks a few of their rules or tries to run away more than once then he/she will be sent home.  The place isnt  a prison.  If you look at the length of time the other students stay you will see it is between 12 and 16 months.  I would not feed Morgan all this false information or try to scare her, it just isnt right, Kleenex.  Everyone should be trying to help Morgan take advantage of this place and work it to her own advantage instead of fighting against it.  She is really getting some bad advice here imo.



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MORGAN TELL ME IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE FOLLOWING, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU DO:

Once you get to Academy at Sisters, or once you are "escorted" to Academy at Sisters, you will NOT BE ALLOWED TO LEAVE.

You will be physically prevented from leaving.

Do you understand that?

You are walking into a prison which you will not be able to leave of your own accord.
You will be physically prevented from escaping through retraints, guarding, locks, and any other number of means. Eventually, (very possibly) you will be not be able to leave because of psychological damage.

You can be kept as there as long as your parents want you there, FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, possibly.

But, at least, and without any need for legal finangaling, until you are 18.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS?

If a child breaks a few of their rules or tries to run away more than once then he/she will be sent home.  The place isnt  a prison.  If you look at the length of time the other students stay you will see it is between 12 and 16 months.  I would not feed Morgan all this false information or try to scare her, it just isnt right, Kleenex.  Everyone should be trying to help Morgan take advantage of this place and work it to her own advantage instead of fighting against it.  She is really getting some bad advice here imo.



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Nope. They're prisons. Well, more along the lines of "gulags."  Prisons incarcerate people who've actually been convicted of crimes and sentanced.

In the gulags discussed on fornits, lAspen Education Group Cult, WWASP, CEDU, Elan, Straight, etc., violence is used to prevent peoples' escape who've not been convicted of anything. In function, though not in fairness or legality, they're prisons. Any organization that uses "escorts," proffesional kidnappers, should be understood to be a gulag.

Sound too crazy too be true?
A little something to start ya' out...

http://www.wwaspsinfo.net/
http://www.legalaffairs.org/issues/July ... laug04.msp
http://www.websupp.org/data/EDTX/9:04-c ... 3-EDTX.pdf
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+troub ... 0156363029
http://www.nospank.net/n-c23.htm

Academy at Swift River and SUWS also uses violence and other coercive measures to prevent victims from escaping, contrary to commentary from "whooter" the Aspen Education Group Troll.

[DannyB II]

MORGAN TELL ME IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE FOLLOWING, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU DO:

Once you get to Academy at Sisters, or once you are "escorted" to Academy at Sisters, you will NOT BE ALLOWED TO LEAVE.

You will be physically prevented from leaving.

Do you understand that?

You are walking into a prison which you will not be able to leave of your own accord.
You will be physically prevented from escaping through retraints, guarding, locks, and any other number of means. Eventually, (very possibly) you will be not be able to leave because of psychological damage.

You can be kept as there as long as your parents want you there, FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, possibly.

But, at least, and without any need for legal finangaling, until you are 18.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS?

If a child breaks a few of their rules or tries to run away more than once then he/she will be sent home.  The place isnt  a prison.  If you look at the length of time the other students stay you will see it is between 12 and 16 months.  I would not feed Morgan all this false information or try to scare her, it just isnt right, Kleenex.  Everyone should be trying to help Morgan take advantage of this place and work it to her own advantage instead of fighting against it.  She is really getting some bad advice here imo.



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MORGAN TELL ME IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE FOLLOWING, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU DO:

Once you get to Academy at Sisters, or once you are "escorted" to Academy at Sisters, you will NOT BE ALLOWED TO LEAVE.

You will be physically prevented from leaving.

Do you understand that?

You are walking into a prison which you will not be able to leave of your own accord.
You will be physically prevented from escaping through retraints, guarding, locks, and any other number of means. Eventually, (very possibly) you will be not be able to leave because of psychological damage.

You can be kept as there as long as your parents want you there, FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, possibly.

But, at least, and without any need for legal finangaling, until you are 18.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS?

If a child breaks a few of their rules or tries to run away more than once then he/she will be sent home.  The place isnt  a prison.  If you look at the length of time the other students stay you will see it is between 12 and 16 months.  I would not feed Morgan all this false information or try to scare her, it just isnt right, Kleenex.  Everyone should be trying to help Morgan take advantage of this place and work it to her own advantage instead of fighting against it.  She is really getting some bad advice here imo.



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Nope. They're prisons. Well, more along the lines of "gulags."  Prisons incarcerate people who've actually been convicted of crimes and sentanced. In the gulags discussed on fornits, like the Aspen Education Group Cult, WWASP, CEDU, Elan, Straight, etc., violence is used to prevent peoples' escape who have not been convicted of anything. In function, though not in fairness or legality, they're prisons. Any organization that uses "escorts," proffesional kidnappers, should be understood to be a gulag.

Sound too crazy too be true?
A little something to start ya' out...

http://www.wwaspsinfo.net/
http://www.legalaffairs.org/issues/July ... laug04.msp
http://www.websupp.org/data/EDTX/9:04-c ... 3-EDTX.pdf
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+troub ... 0156363029
http://www.nospank.net/n-c23.htm

Academy at Swift River and SUWS also uses violence and other coercive measures to prevent victims from escaping, despite what the Aspen Education Group Troll says.

Here we go again another extremist making shit up from other programs from years ago that were essentially isolated incidents. Bravo so happy you still have your diary from 30 years ago till now.
Ya know I think if you post this larger it may just work.
Thanks for the "Troll" down memory lane.

[kleenex]

MORGAN TELL ME IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE FOLLOWING, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU DO:

Once you get to Academy at Sisters, or once you are "escorted" to Academy at Sisters, you will NOT BE ALLOWED TO LEAVE.

You will be physically prevented from leaving.

Do you understand that?

You are walking into a prison which you will not be able to leave of your own accord.
You will be physically prevented from escaping through retraints, guarding, locks, and any other number of means. Eventually, (very possibly) you will be not be able to leave because of psychological damage.

You can be kept as there as long as your parents want you there, FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, possibly.

But, at least, and without any need for legal finangaling, until you are 18.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET TO A PHONE TO CALL FOR HELP?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYTHING THEY DEMAND YOU DO WILL BE ENFORCED THROUGH VIOLENCE?

[Oscar]

Here we go again another extremist making shit up from other programs from years ago that were essentially isolated incidents. Bravo so happy you still have your diary from 30 years ago till now.
Ya know I think if you post this larger it may just work.
Thanks for the "Troll" down memory lane.

Our contacts on various message boards are trying to contact survivors from the Academy, but have not been successful yet. It very much depends on the program. What do you think would happen if a teenager walks off the campus of existing programs like Turn-about Ranch, Island View or Red River Academy?

The teenager will be restrained. Because we don't know anything about the Academy at Sisters, we don't know what is going on a the Lodge Campus beside that it is isolated and the daily schedule is strict in order to get the girls to bite into the program. The "nice" Read Campus which the parents tour may have ASR-like rules, but the Lodge Campus sounds like Roundy at Turn-about Ranch.

[Whooter]

Cult, Prisons, kidnapping and Gulag should tip the reader off that the person represents a fringe hate group.  

Like most boarding schools they expect you to adhere to the rules otherwise your parents are called and you get sent home (no refund is given back).  Many of the posters here can actually put you in more danger than any program.  Programs keep your identity safe and would not never post your personal information publicly like many do here.  

Programs are highly structured and have a predetermined beginning and end point.  If a child works hard they can accomplish a lot and get a lot out of it.  Many posters here did not do well in their program and therefore have a very negative opinion against them.



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[kleenex]

Here we go again another extremist making shit up from other programs from years ago that were essentially isolated incidents. Bravo so happy you still have your diary from 30 years ago till now.
Ya know I think if you post this larger it may just work.
Thanks for the "Troll" down memory lane.

Our contacts on various message boards are trying to contact survivors from the Academy, but have not been successful yet. It very much depends on the program. What do you think would happen if a teenager walks off the campus of existing programs like Turn-about Ranch, Island View or Red River Academy?

The teenager will be restrained. Because we don't know anything about the Academy at Sisters, we don't know what is going on a the Lodge Campus beside that it is isolated and the daily schedule is strict in order to get the girls to bite into the program. The "nice" Read Campus which the parents tour may have ASR-like rules, but the Lodge Campus sounds like Roundy at Turn-about Ranch.

MORGAN TELL ME IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE FOLLOWING, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU DO:

Once you get to Academy at Sisters, or once you are "escorted" to Academy at Sisters, you will NOT BE ALLOWED TO LEAVE.

You will be physically prevented from leaving.

Do you understand that?

You are walking into a prison which you will not be able to leave of your own accord.
You will be physically prevented from escaping through retraints, guarding, locks, and any other number of means. Eventually, (very possibly) you will be not be able to leave because of psychological damage.

You can be kept as there as long as your parents want you there, FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, possibly.

But, at least, and without any need for legal finangaling, until you are 18.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS?

If a child breaks a few of their rules or tries to run away more than once then he/she will be sent home.  The place isnt  a prison.  If you look at the length of time the other students stay you will see it is between 12 and 16 months.  I would not feed Morgan all this false information or try to scare her, it just isnt right, Kleenex.  Everyone should be trying to help Morgan take advantage of this place and work it to her own advantage instead of fighting against it.  She is really getting some bad advice here imo.



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MORGAN TELL ME IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE FOLLOWING, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU DO:

Once you get to Academy at Sisters, or once you are "escorted" to Academy at Sisters, you will NOT BE ALLOWED TO LEAVE.

You will be physically prevented from leaving.

Do you understand that?

You are walking into a prison which you will not be able to leave of your own accord.
You will be physically prevented from escaping through retraints, guarding, locks, and any other number of means. Eventually, (very possibly) you will be not be able to leave because of psychological damage.

You can be kept as there as long as your parents want you there, FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, possibly.

But, at least, and without any need for legal finangaling, until you are 18.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS?

If a child breaks a few of their rules or tries to run away more than once then he/she will be sent home.  The place isnt  a prison.  If you look at the length of time the other students stay you will see it is between 12 and 16 months.  I would not feed Morgan all this false information or try to scare her, it just isnt right, Kleenex.  Everyone should be trying to help Morgan take advantage of this place and work it to her own advantage instead of fighting against it.  She is really getting some bad advice here imo.



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Nope. They're prisons. Well, more along the lines of "gulags."  Prisons incarcerate people who've actually been convicted of crimes and sentanced. In the gulags discussed on fornits, like the Aspen Education Group Cult, WWASP, CEDU, Elan, Straight, etc., violence is used to prevent peoples' escape who have not been convicted of anything. In function, though not in fairness or legality, they're prisons. Any organization that uses "escorts," proffesional kidnappers, should be understood to be a gulag.

Sound too crazy too be true?
A little something to start ya' out...

http://www.wwaspsinfo.net/
http://www.legalaffairs.org/issues/July ... laug04.msp
http://www.websupp.org/data/EDTX/9:04-c ... 3-EDTX.pdf
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+troub ... 0156363029
http://www.nospank.net/n-c23.htm

Academy at Swift River and SUWS also uses violence and other coercive measures to prevent victims from escaping, despite what the Aspen Education Group Troll says.

Here we go again another extremist making shit up from other programs from years ago that were essentially isolated incidents. Bravo so happy you still have your diary from 30 years ago till now.
Ya know I think if you post this larger it may just work.
Thanks for the "Troll" down memory lane.

You are uneducated. Staight closed in 1994 and it remains open under another name.  The rest of the above programs named are open (even though CEDU's official ownership was transferred) including the one you were in, Elan. How could you not know that? The point of my list was to give insight into the legacy and pattern of kidnap and imprisonment.

[Paul St. John]

I think just about everyone agrees it was a stupid thing to. It also hurts the credibility of the posters here.  I don't think Morgan's father really deserved that shit.  But certainly, the person most screwed over was Morgan.  She actually trusted people here.  She acted like an adult.  You acted childish.  You abused her confidence.

Pile, I know that you very strongly believe that what you are doing is right, and that this is a war, and you are trying to save somebody....

But, at the very least, did it ever occur to you to ask Morgan her opinion before doing this? You probably knew she wouldnt go for it.  Ya did a stupid thing.. I m not jump on the band wagon, and condemn ya, cause ya got enough of that.

I'm just gonna ask ya to think about this....

If you think that it is okay to hurt someone in order to help them, aren t you using the same philosophy you and most of us here oppose?

Ya gotta slow down man.. Take a step back.. That s my opinion....

Paul St. John

[kleenex]

Cult, Prisons, kidnapping and Gulag should tip the reader off that the person represents a fringe hate group.  

Like most boarding schools they expect you to adhere to the rules otherwise your parents are called and you get sent home (no refund is given back).  Many of the posters here can actually put you in more danger than any program.  Programs keep your identity safe and would not never post your personal information publicly like many do here.  

Programs are highly structured and have a predetermined beginning and end point.  If a child works hard they can accomplish a lot and get a lot out of it.  Many posters here did not do well in their program and therefore have a very negative opinion against them.



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Cult, Prisons, kidnapping and Gulag should tip the reader off that the person represents a fringe hate group.  

Like most boarding schools they expect you to adhere to the rules otherwise your parents are called and you get sent home (no refund is given back).  Many of the posters here can actually put you in more danger than any program.  Programs keep your identity safe and would not never post your personal information publicly like many do here.  

Programs are highly structured and have a predetermined beginning and end point.  If a child works hard they can accomplish a lot and get a lot out of it.  Many posters here did not do well in their program and therefore have a very negative opinion against them.



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http://www.nospank.net/labi.htm
http://www.wwaspsinfo.net/
http://www.teenadvocatesusa.org/FrontPage.html

The above describes kidanpping. Any "boarding school" that uses thugs who use violence or threat of violence to force human beings into thier facility are gulags, and will use violence to prevent escape as well as to acheive capture. The links provide you with material to read about methods used to prevent escape of the prisoners. TheWho understands that teens are kept prisoner in these facitilites. Its frightening to theink how deceptive such an entity is capable of being, especiailly considering he has a "fiduciary interest" in Aspen.


After kidnap, while being held prisoner without opprotuinity to contact the wider world, that's when the additional torture starts. Every once in a while the state will conduct a fair investiagtion and shut down the gulags, but all too rarely. Follow the link to read about the state's investigation into Mount Bachelor Academy, an Aspen Education Group gulag:

http://www.cafety.org/solutions-and-suc ... my-closing


"Investigators eported that all students at MBA were required to participate in "emotional growth" workshops, called Lifesteps, which included activities that were coercive, intimidating and humiliating -- including sexualized role play and reenactment of past traumatic events, such as prior physical or sexual abuse.

While the initial reports described concerns about Lifesteps, the investigation ultimately revealed serious safety concerns about MBA's curriculum and program as a whole. The experience of the five students was consistent with that of other children enrolled at the school. The report concluded that the experiences of "these five youth are exemplars of the program's treatment of its students as a whole."

[Whooter]

The above describes kidanpping. Any "boarding school" that uses thugs who use violence or threat of violence to force human beings into thier facility are gulags, and will use violence to prevent escape as well as to acheive capture. The links provide you with material to read about methods used to prevent escape of the prisoners. TheWho understands that teens are kept prisoner in these facitilites. Its frightening to theink how deceptive such an entity is capable of being, especiailly considering he has a "fiduciary interest" in Aspen.

So basically you link to other fringe groups to back up your story, but nothing credible?  Do you have anything from a major newspaper?  They usually put kidnappings on the front page.  In fact it carries the death penalty in some states so it would be taken very seriously.  How about a police report?

I think the way your sham works is one website makes up a story and then other websites link to it to give the appearance it is a credible story, but you basically have nothing.   I have never seen a report of a child being kidnapped and held in a boarding school and held with the threat of violence.


I suspect that you may be mentally ill, Kleenex.



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[kleenex]

As you well know,  the links go to Deperatment of health findings, articles, lawsuits, the Goverment of Accountability Office, etc, and are parked at organizations dedicated to protecting teens from human rights violations.

(Watch the GAO investigation into torture and imprisonment at "specitality schools." BTW
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... 8FEE00F28F)


Similarly, Amnesty international parks articles, lawsuits, criminal investigation findings relating to human rights violations. The "fringe groups" you describe are no more fringe than amnesty internation, though that's a subjective opinion

But that's clear to anyone who follows the links. This John David Reuben (they say) character that calls itslf Whooter really doesn't want you (reader) to do that.