Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS)
Trial for a Paradise Cove survivor starts.
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "wdtony" ---I'm surprised this kind of thing doesn't happen more often. It's really sad. The kid suffers, the parents suffer and the program is not held accountable at all.
I guess this program didn't deliver.... can the father sue the program for failing to help his son or has the name and location of the program changed a few times since?
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It was Paradise Cove in Western Samoa (run by WWASPs). So... while the program no longer exists, the father could still get in on the Turley lawsuit if he so wished...
Somehow, I kinda doubt that John Sutton sees his son's experience in Samoa as a contributing factor to this tragic event.
"Witnesses also told police Sutton hated his parents for shipping him off to the Paradise Cove program in Western Samoa, a boot camp style program with a history of abuse complaints from participants."[/list]
Pile of Dead Kids:
Mom dead, dad blinded?
PWNED HARD!
I was going to give Chris 150 out of a possible 200 points. But then I realized just how utterly pwned this guy is; wife dead, son in prison for life, never to see again. Extra credit! 225/200 for Chris Sutton. Excellent work and a gold star!
But he fucked up, obviously. If he wanted to stay out of prison, he shoulda just made *sure* they were dead, burned the bodies and fed the skeletons through a rock crusher, and feigned some surprise and asked to help find the real killer. (Worked for OJ, didn't it?) Oh well, I'm sure this tale will be a lesson for others.
Anyone want the name "Pile of Dead Parents"?
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Pile of Dead Kids" ---Mom dead, dad blinded?
PWNED HARD!
I was going to give Chris 150 out of a possible 200 points. But then I realized just how utterly pwned this guy is; wife dead, son in prison for life, never to see again. Extra credit! 225/200 for Chris Sutton. Excellent work and a gold star!
But he fucked up, obviously. If he wanted to stay out of prison, he shoulda just made *sure* they were dead, burned the bodies and fed the skeletons through a rock crusher, and feigned some surprise and asked to help find the real killer. (Worked for OJ, didn't it?) Oh well, I'm sure this tale will be a lesson for others.
Anyone want the name "Pile of Dead Parents"?
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Definitely a lesson, I agree. I dont think anyone would want to follow in the footsteps of this kid or OJ. All the program could do was to buy his parents a few more years together, the kid was an evil seed from day one and the whole thing was just unfortunate. Everyone loses.
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Ursus:
I see that Whooter posted some of the comments above. Seems a shame not to post them all, given that there are not that many... So here they are:
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Comments left for the above article, "Son's trial begins in 'hit' on parents" (by David Ovalle and Mara Rudolph, 07.08.10, The Miami Herald):
HenrikKnudsen wrote on 07/08/2010 07:34:26 AM:
Everyone who search for "Paradise Cove" on the Internet will learn about a torment to a degree which you never would be something any parent would impose on their child.
Even 10-15 years later the survivors of this place is tormented by nightmares and they will have to live with it the rest of their lives. It doesn't justify murder, but a parent who did choose "Paradise Cove" for their child is a disgrace of a parent.BHarrison wrote on 07/08/2010 08:17:54 AM:
Having children can be a blessing or a curse ... and one never knows how it might turn out, huh? This article should have been ran adjacent to the article yesterday about 20% of women deciding not to have children.
Of course parent CAN have a major impact on how their kids turn out; but sometimes, even the best of parents can wind up with an exremely difficult child. The article did not say why the parents sent Christopher to the Paradise Cove "private school" though. It appears that the wealthy parents might not have been very "loving" towards this problem kid.miamiisgettingscummier wrote on 07/08/2010 08:20:37 AM:
Burn 'emholmesrip2 wrote on 07/08/2010 10:47:32 AM:
Dear Mr. Ovalle, and Miami Herald Readers:
I had the privilege of briefly knowing Teddy Montoto, attorney John Sutton's law partner -- the firm was Sutton and Montoto.
You correctly describe this mind-blowing, apocalyptic, situation as comparable to a Greek Tragedy.
I thank all of you, very much, for your interest in the well-being of survivor, and excellent practicing attorney, Mr. Sutton.
Sincerely,
Jackson Rip Holmesmht103 wrote on 07/08/2010 11:12:17 AM:
Kopp would testify Mother Teressa hired him to kill the Suttons for 30 years instead of the "needle"!dee65 wrote on 07/08/2010 11:15:44 AM:
Having children is the luck of the draw some are good, some are bad and some in between. The parents may have made a bad choice in sending their "troubled" child to paradise cove but that is NO excuse for murdering them. He was born a bad seed and probably thought that because he was an only child that his parents "owed" him he could get away with it. Parents don't "owe" anything to their children especially an inheritance, make your money I'll spend mine how I please. Rich or poor kids who kill their parents don't make a distinction between right and wrong, they want to place blame on the parents or society but never themselves. I say give him life, I'm sure right now he's tormented by the fact his friend didn't finish the job and he's father is still living. I hope his father realizes its not anything he may have done some are just bad from the get go.jacksonprivatei wrote on 07/08/2010 01:04:52 PM:
--- Quote ---Replying to HenrikKnudsen (07/08/2010 07:34:26 AM):
"Everyone who search for "Paradise Cove" on the Internet will learn about a torment to a degree which you never would be something any parent would impose on their child.
Even 10-15 years later the survivors of this place is tormented by nightmares and they will have to live with it the rest...":
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Oh really ? You have no idea what this SON put them through. I wouldn't judge unless you knew the whole story.[/list]
Littlemiss wrote on 07/08/2010 01:48:39 PM:
Wow if his parents obtained a court order to leave him in Samoa till he was 18,the guy must have been really bad to the bone. Poor Damien.rbquinn wrote on 07/08/2010 03:38:45 PM:
Christopher is an ungrateful adopted child!rosafadul wrote on 07/08/2010 03:41:28 PM:
I haved the pleasure of knowing Mr. Sutton and I can tell you honestly this man is not only the kindest human being but a wonderful and honest lawyer. What he has encountered over the last couple of years, his son should pay. He took the life of his mother and left his father blind. Justice must always prevail even thou it will never bring back Mr. Sutton his sight, his wife and his son. May god bless Mr. Sutton and his family.miamigal427 wrote on 07/08/2010 04:02:50 PM:
I grew up with the Sutton's younger daughter. Her parents were like my parents throughout my childhood. It breaks my heart over and over again to hear about the case. Mr. Sutton and his daughter are 2 very strong people who deserve the best in life. Chris was always troubled child/teen. I remember his terrible anger fits and abuse His parents loved him very much though. I hope he is given the punishment he deserves.HenrikKnudsen wrote on 07/08/2010 04:31:26 PM:
The camp was shot down by the authorities in Samoa based on work by the US Consulate. The firm behind the camp did also get camps and school shut down in the Czech republic, Mexico and Costa Rica. When she was a senator, Clinton aided the Jewish community in New York to save a kid from a camp in Jamaica. I have found photo of kids hogtied in dog cages down in Mexico at another camp.
There is no question that such a treatment would create a very sick mind and because I do find the hit on the parents wrong despite their choice of treatment solution, I hope that a guilty verdict will put him in a real hospital for a very long time so he can recover and understand his actions.
mandelduke:
I just had some one e-mail me from prison in California, he is in there for murder. His friend found a post of mine about Green River, she said when he read it he was touched to say the least. He was at Woods Bend in Kentucky in the med 70ts I was at Green River Bays Camp. They were the to worst in Kentucky . He wants to correspond with me, but still to this day its hard to talk about. Believe me when you live through a place like that, you are capable of anything.
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