Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Academy at Sisters
Paul St. John:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---But Ursus, she is an admissions director. You seem to think because you can find a connection that the place is CEDU based. When CEDU closed there were tons of people out of work and where would they go? To other programs! If McDonalds closed then people may flock to Burger King because people typically stay within the area that they know. But if we went to Burger King you probably couldn't get a Big Mac.
Each program has a model that they run by and employees that they hire are trained to implement this model. If the employee which use to work for McDonalds started making special sauce and putting it on hamburgers he would be fired. The same with the employees that came to programs from CEDU, they are trained to the model that is established.
What if you found out that an employee was Jewish, would that make the program Jewish based? or if an employee was found to be a member of the KKK, would that redefine the whole program?
Maybe they are CEDU and Maybe they are not but that needs to be determined by what model they work to and the components that support it...i.e life steps etc.
Do you see what I mean?
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You gotta love it....
Whooter's World-Where Child Abuse is Comparable to Special Sauce!
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Paul St. John" ---You gotta love it....
Whooter's World-Where Child Abuse is Comparable to Special Sauce!
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If you twisted it a little it could be viewed as child abuse if you wanted to see it that way. But my intention was to show that the process used at CEDU doesn’t necessarily follow the employees to their new jobs.
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Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "Paul St. John" ---You gotta love it....
Whooter's World-Where Child Abuse is Comparable to Special Sauce!
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If you twisted it a little it could be viewed as child abuse if you wanted to see it that way. But my intention was to show that the process used at CEDU doesn’t necessarily follow the employees to their new jobs.
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I imagine that it's pretty hard to become a convincing exponent of CEDU unless you are able to internalize it and eventually, to believe it. That's why folks who've voluntarily spent a long time at CEDU ... are often Lifers. CEDU is not "just a job" to these folk; it's a way of life.
For the record, lest Whooter trump up more charges of my "misleading readers," LOL ... I am NOT saying that Academy at Sisters is a CEDU program. I don't think we know enough yet about this program to jump to any such conclusions, one way or another.
I AM, however, saying that there are a disturbing number of CEDU influences and connections, particularly in key areas that really matter, when it comes to ascertaining a specific program's ideology and methodology of influence, namely: 1.) parental indoctrination, 2.) financial support, and 3.) the marketing interface between the real world and the world according to program. Y'all can make of it what you will.
Paul St. John:
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---
--- Quote from: "Paul St. John" ---You gotta love it....
Whooter's World-Where Child Abuse is Comparable to Special Sauce!
--- End quote ---
If you twisted it a little it could be viewed as child abuse if you wanted to see it that way. But my intention was to show that the process used at CEDU doesn’t necessarily follow the employees to their new jobs.
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And my point, is that we are talking about people here. We are talking about their habits, their view of life, their orientation, their personal philosophy.
Going from being a harmful person by nature who hurts kids, to being a good person, who actually has a positive impact on their lives, is just a tad bit more of a career adjustment then the extreme effort required to abstain from putting special sauce on burgers.
You are right. A person from McD's would try to get a job at Burger King, because they are very similar.
You are almost making the argument, yourself.
Helpful verse harmful is not similar. It is an extraordinarily huge difference. A lot bigger then special sauce.
In a more sensible metaphor, Burger King and McDonalds would both be CEDU programs, with slight differences. For example different ways of fucking with people.
Now, Programs would be the food industry at large, and perhaps, a helpful, beneficial program would be like a 4 star restaurant or something to that effect. I don't think too many 4 star restaraunts would hire someone based on their fast food experience, but just as you said, another fast food place would hire them, where all they have to learn is to replace a big mac with a Whopper.
This all sounds kind of silly, but it's not. This is a far more realistic metaphor and the one that you are attempting to use is misleading.
And even yet another more accurate way to look it- Bearing in mind, the reputation of the CEDU programs.......
If you opened a food establishment of any type, would you hire employees of an establishment known for poisoning people, and feel completely like all is well, and good, because in your new establishment, poisoning people is not part of the new system that you have trained them in?
Paul St. John
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