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Perry will go down due to corruption and Casa by the sea
Oscar:
--- Quote ---He is guilty. The crime was as cold blooded and selfish as they come. If one believes in the death penalty, it is hard to imagine a case better deserving of it. That said, I'd argue his youth and mental health as mitigating factors and try to get his sentence commuted to Life.
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Well, we at spft don't believe in death penalty.
First the sentenced people lives 10-15 years on death row under conditions way better than the normal prison population. It is costly in a time where money is few. The laywers love death penalty cases because they can in court many times during all the appeals. Who is paying for those appeal? The taxpayers!
I personally believe that Mr. Perry should be kept behind bars for the rest of life if he had just committed one of the murders. He should be sentenced to life without parole.
There is some questions about a shotgun seen by the woman who were granted immunity in the case. Maybe he is not guilty in one of the murders. Should it be the case you can give him a sorry if he is alive. You cannot say sorry to a corpse.
wdtony:
From what I had already read, I believe that he (Perry) is guilty. But that wasn't my point.
I don't believe the old, "I had a bad life" excuse when it comes to crimes of this extent. Whether or not he was using prescription drugs legally or illegally is of no consequence to me. But you make an excellent point that he (Perry) seemed very good at communicating when he needed to do so. I think he committed the crime and is lying about it.
What I am suggesting is that we haven't been given the information of possible psychiatric medications administered to perpetrators. The reason I bring this up is because there are several accounts of whacked out shootings, suicide and violence in the news where psyche-meds are involved yet receive little or no mention. Having experienced myself what altered states these "medications" can do to some people I am concerned when the media fails repeatedly to report these important details.
After reading through all of the information on this thread, I would conclude that any drugs taken by the perpetrator are of no importance. He (or should I say they?) probably would have committed the same crime sober.
BuzzKill:
Oscar - you make some good points in opposition to the death penalty. There are some states that agree with you, but others, like Texas and Florida, argue otherwise.
Oddly, TX doesn't offer life without parole. In TX, a life sentence is 40 years. I suspect the jury did the math and realized this very dangerous young man would be turned loose at the age of 59 or 60, and felt that gave him to much time to do more harm. I expect if Life in meant life in, then that's what he would've got.
Oz girl:
I am not on the jury so I have no idea whether this kid committed this crime. I am truly sorry for the families of the dead woman and boy. But I am horrified that a crime committed by someone so young could get the death penalty. Like Oscar I am from a country opposed to the death penalty. I don't understand how a state whose prominent politicians have argued that life is sacred when opposing euthenasia or abortion can also argue in favor of putting someone to death. I may misunderstand the law but cant they give him 40 years for each murder? i thought that happened in tx from time to time. I do agree with Oscar that describing Casa as an alternative school to the jury is far from accurate. At the end of the day we are all responsible morally and socially for what we do but the combination of that kind of brutality and a culture that not only discourages the idea of morality as a motivation but that encourages brutality as a way of getting ahead sends a pretty unhealthy message to kids who are at a vulnerable stage of development. If the kid already has some issues I think this is a legitimate argument for a mitigating factor.
BuzzKill:
I'd have to go back and look to be sure - but off hand - I believe he was only charged with Ms Stoller's murder. If they had charged and convicted him with all three, then I imagine they could have given him 3 consecutive life (40 year) sentences. Why just the one murder charge? My guess is that the state held back the others in case of an acquittal or lighter sentence on a lessor charge. This is sometimes done in cases of multiple murder.
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