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Open Sky Wilderness in Colorado
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Joel" ---Does either party have proof that could validate their claim and/or establish (1) who (2) what (3) where (4) why (5) when and (6) how?
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Exactly, we cant take events that occurred in one place and assume they are occurring someplace else without some sort of evidence.
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Pile of Dead Kids:
Joel, we're talking about two people who have gotten their start in this place and now work, as upper management, somewhere else.
http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title ... nt_Academy
If you really want to you can search for "brat camp" on Youtube and watch the sick fuckery for yourself. (Edit: No you can't. The episodes *were* on YT, but have since been deleted. Shit.)
You wouldn't trust someone trained in phrenology to do brain surgery, and no reputable hospital would hire a phrenologist. You wouldn't trust someone educated in creationism to teach bioscience, and no reputable college would hire one as a science teacher. Why the fuck would you trust someone quite literally trained in child abuse to take care of your kids, regardless of where they work?
It's like the Catholic Church moving abusive priests around between parishes instead of defrocking them. If you take the exact same people who were doing something, and you put them in the exact same environment, with very similar ideas of what "therapy" is, why would you expect them to do anything different than what they did before?
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Joel" ---Whooter what proof say you?
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Exactly, Joel, where is the proof? All those events occurred at a different wilderness. Maybe the director of Open Sky wants to take it into a different direction like many people do when switching places. Maybe she wants to make it the same as the old place she was at. Maybe she wants to make it religious or have more clinical staff. Maybe she wants less clinical staff than that place she worked before so she can realize a bigger profit. Maybe she wants more abuse to occur!! Maybe less.
Would the principal of Columbine run her new school a little different? Would the principal of the school which allowed the teachers to rape students make changes? or would they look forward to the same events?
So I agree with Joel here that we need proof that Open Sky has incorporated a modality that reflects abuse. But so far we haven't seen that and from the searches I have made the place seems very successful and the parents and kids seem to have benefited from their stay there.
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Pile of Dead Kids:
A pedophile and his assistant go around in a windowless white van marked "free candy". The pedophile gets arrested for obvious reasons. The assistant gets away with it.
A few days later the assistant is seen driving his own windowless green van marked "free toys".
We should give the former assistant a chance, right? I mean, how do we know for sure that he's doing the same thing as his boss used to? Heck, the assistant has a website talking about all the good experiences kids have had in his van, and there's testimonials all over his website and everything talking about how great of a person he is and how much he can be trusted. Why wouldn't we let this guy have our kids?
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Pile of Dead Kids" ---A pedophile and his assistant go around in a windowless white van marked "free candy". The pedophile gets arrested for obvious reasons. The assistant gets away with it.
A few days later the assistant is seen driving his own windowless green van marked "free toys".
We should give the former assistant a chance, right? I mean, how do we know for sure that he's doing the same thing as his boss used to?
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Exactly, good analogy, People are not pedophiles by association, Pile. If you hang out with gay people for a few years it doesn't mean you will become gay.
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