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Offline Dr Fucktard

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« Reply #165 on: September 17, 2009, 12:18:24 PM »
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I wil pay someone to escort the who to a mental ward.

Interesting how that works here.  If we are talking about someone being escorted to a program it is referred to as Kidnapping.  But when you are the one paying for the service you call it escorting........Same service company.... just a matter of perspective.
And your point?

You see, we at SIBS™ believe in what we're doing; we see entering the program as more of a privilege, not as a "kidnapping" as you so inelegantly put it... It's more like saving a LIFE!!!

Thank you, have a seat!
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Re: Why spend a year in a program when it can be done in a w
« Reply #166 on: May 26, 2010, 11:53:22 AM »
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I think it's because programs aren't really designed to improve behavior. Well, they sort of are, and sort of aren't. From the perspective of a parent, this might be what they assume. After all, they are told some form of this variant to assuage their fears of the obvious intrusion into person hood they find themselves ready to engage in. To be honest though I have no idea what future program parents think, and I never will. Some say wait, when your kids are teenagers and become crack whores you will empathize with our decisions. The problem with that though is simple. I have already been through the wringer and my judgment is very much dependent upon my experience and memories. I just can't forget it at will, or even pretend to. I can theorize what a parent might think, a truly ignorant parent whose knowledge of programs is little more than a brochure and phone call. But I will never really know.

Back to behavior and whether or not it is improved. Some might tour a program, say a parent, and be amazed at how well behaved the kids are. From this outside perspective it might be surprising that a group of the roughest teenagers you could find, are so quiet and cordial. The problem with this assumption is two fold. First, the kids are not bad or as bad as most make them out to be. Second, the well behaved group of kids is trained in the art of emotional assassination and physical pain. They know not to speak out of turn for those simple yet effective reasons.

So it really depends and goes back to intent. We must question if the parents wish to have a well behaved, rather, quiet and obedient child, knowing full well of the means used to reach such a conclusion. One might assume that those receiving tours of programs who are amazed at the appearance of order might ask how it is done. You might also assume that the parents might ask this same question, and if we are lucky some sort of government official might become curious and ask this question. For it is in this question wherein lies the secrets.

How do you get a kid who smoked pot a couple times to admit freely and publicly to being a full-on drug addict for life?
How do you get a kid to admit their darkest deepest secrets in front of a large group of strangers, secrets they know full well will be used to hurt them, yet still reveal what most would take to the grave?
How do you change a rebellious free spirit into a sycophantic, fearful automaton in just a few months?
How exactly are these things accomplished, one might assume someone would ask.

The answers to these questions are complicated, brutal and ugly. Behavior modification is a codeword, euphemism for abuse, plain and simple. The idea so goes if you make a child so uncomfortable, as in pushing them to their human breaking point until you hear snap, they will be forced to reevaluate their life, and the decisions which led them to this reprogramming in the first place. The problem is the instant and most obvious, and usually correct answer is what led them to this place is their parents ignorant, mean-spirited, or generally stupid decision to send them. They might answer they would be in high school right now like a normal teen if not for their unnecessary and grossly overbearing parental intervention. They would probably be right. The programs feels otherwise.

Fast forward a few months and now ask that same kid why they are at the program. Nine times out of ten, the answer might surprise you. They will make no mention of their parents, or bad decisions. They have now learned to take "responsibility" and "accountability" for their actions in a way that would make any paying parent proud. The burden lifted and replaced, absolved, forgiven and forgotten. At this point the parents don't ask why or how, they are just happy with their adolescent 2.0, reprogrammed to be the stepford parents dream child.

The problem is there is a bug in the software. It only seems to work when installed on program hardware. You take the immense fear, intimidation, snitches, controlled environment, fence, censorship, abuse, emotional turmoil, sickness, terrible living conditions, relentless brainwashing sessions, blackmail familial love, etc, away - well then there is a problem. Suddenly the program software doesn't work so well. At this point you might assume the parents ask why that is. Were we conned, duped, bamboozled in an elaborate, expensive, diabolical hoax? Is that why the program limited and censored our contact and only sent us quarterly pictures, like a child held for ransom? Could what my child is telling me be true? Did I really spend all of that money to subsidize the systematic, long-term, unforgettable emotional and physical abuse of my very own child?

I assume people ask these questions. In that sense I think I might be wrong though. These are questions coming from an insider, courtesy of a front row seat to the all inclusive, parental endorsed horror show. So to me the questions are obvious. To them, well, I really don't know.


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Re: Why spend a year in a program when it can be done in a w
« Reply #167 on: May 27, 2010, 01:28:00 AM »
(A) the child into adolescence, is ready to portray themselves as an adult. Their thoughts and behavior, on the parents than the previous period even more difficult.

(B) parenting tips for young children

1. Parents can not force young children, adolescent children can not force parents; two sides can not force the other to do the other side do not want to do.

2. If the relationship between parent-child communication or poor, need to change the first parents; only when parents have a positive change, children will change.

(C) of the young parents to bring the biggest trouble is some of their bad behavior, the purpose of these actions can be summarized in six categories:

1. Attention:

Active - mischievous, playful, dressed bounds.

Negative - agreed not to do, ignore their fair share of the do.

2. The pursuit of power:

Active - resistance, disobedience, talk back, there is hostility.

Negative - stubborn resistance.

3. Retaliation:

Active - the parents intentionally do something sad, violent damage, rough.

Negative - something with the eyes of hatred treat people.

4. Consciously incompetent:

Active - do not keep regular, strong irritant to do something special, including the car, doing dangerous sports, drinking, drugs, sexual promiscuity.

Negative - give up easily, do not want to try, willing to backward, skip school or use other ways to escape, including drinking, taking drugs.

5. Performance superiority: the pursuit of the highest performance, highest honors; look down on parents and others; and others with a sense of superiority against.

6. Seek peer acceptance: spend a lot of time and effort to do all the things to strike a broad acceptance of their peers.
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