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Recent Aspen cutback and re-structure
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---If I were a parent struggling with some difficult decisions regarding my kid, and I knew some of Aspen's history with regard to exaggerating their alleged "expertise," not to mention their contribution to adolescent mortality rates, I'd be hard pressed to believe some of their hard sell.
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Ursus, this goes without saying and would apply to any industry. When doctors exaggerated about their alleged expertise in the operating room and their contribution to mortality rates it makes us all question the hard sell of getting an operation or our appendix removed.
Most parents check multiple sources and speak to other parents who had kids go through the program. This gives them a better sense whether the program is a good fit for their child. It will also give them a sense whether or not the marketing lives up to the actual practice.
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DannyB II:
Re: Asperger's and high-functioning autism
Postby Ursus ยป 20 May 2010, 18:11
--- Quote ---I'd respectfully beg to differ with you, Whooter, as far as putting kids with Aspergers into any kind of program, even one which, in the best case scenario, is geared towards their particular needs.
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What I think your saying here is your "prejudice" of any type of program prevents you from accepting a specialized program for high functioning autism / aspergers .
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Most Aspies that I know or whose blogs I have read would prefer to be mainstreamed, albeit with some additional support services in place when it comes to learning social skills for negotiating existence in a predatory world
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Most Apies that you know (should I take this at face value you personally know some or are you exaggerating to make a point). I think this is what you would like to see Ursus. Problem is you are not a child with Aspergers or high functioning autism or a parent, I don't even think you even work in the field. So I don't think you understand the complexities in schooling the children with these disabilities.
--- Quote ---Most programs, which utilize group pressure to conform as a means of effecting their behavior modification, are a real anathema to kids with Aspergers. While these kids may be a bit of a magnet for some teasing in the public school system, it's nothing compared to being singled out and psychologically eviscerated like they might be in program
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Why do you think they would place these children in a program like we went to, based upon peer pressure.
Where are you getting this information. They are talking about a specialized program for a specific child.
--- Quote ---"While these kids may be a bit of a magnet for some teasing in the public school system, it's nothing compared to being singled out and psychologically eviscerated like they might be in program."
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You can't be serious, obviously you never went to public school. They would be pummeled to near death every chance a student with a "chip on his shoulder" has. Ridiculed would be a good day, they die in public schools talk with the parents.
--- Quote ---Personal opinions aside, I also find it highly unbelievable that Aspen Education could possibly come up with something like an Aspergers / high-functioning autistics program, especially considering how abysmally they've already failed with their recently closed Cedars Academy. I certainly hope they don't plan to replicate what went on there
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Well Ursus there is your fear coming through again.
Danny
Whooter:
Link to News Article
The special needs student was told he wouldn't be picked on at his New Hampshire high school if he submitted to having obscene words tattooed on his backside, police said.
CONCORD, N.H. -- Four people have been charged with tattooing a 14-year-old special needs student on his backside, against his will, Concord police said.
The boy, whose name was not released, told police the four told him he wouldn't be picked on at Concord High School if he submitted to it. An image, with two obscene words was tattooed on him May 10, police said.
The victim was targeted because he's intellectually challenged, prosecutor Scott Murray said.
"You put yourself in this kid's position, your heart has to go out to him," said Sgt. John Thomas, who said the boy has been picked on so much that he would do anything to stop it. "It's gotten so bad that you have to subject your body to being scarred for life, just to be accepted by your peers."
Blake VanNest, 18, is charged with assault, endangering the welfare of a minor, tattooing without a license, indecent exposure and criminal threatening. Donald Wyman, 20, is charged with criminal liability for the conduct of another and conspiracy to endanger the welfare of a minor.
Two others -- Ryan Fisk, 19 and Travis Johnston, 18, -- are also charged.
Johnson, who said he allowed it take place at his house, told WMUR-TV he wished it never happened.
"Before I got in trouble, I regretted it," he said.
The family of the boy said they planned to speak out about the growing problem of school bullying in the coming the days.
"This is a very emotional time for our family, as we are still trying to absorb what was done to our child," the family said through a lawyer.
The boy told police that despite his protests VanNest said he would get a tattoo whether he liked it or not, police said. The boy said he eventually agreed because VanNest told him he would no longer be picked on at school.
The boy told police that when he arrived at the home to get the tattoo he said again that he didn't want one, but VanNest threatened him.
Wyman drew the tattoo on the boy, and Fisk and VanNest did the tattooing, prosecutors said.
The next day, the boy said students in the school were passing around pictures of the tattoo. A teacher overheard a conversation about it called police.
New Hampshire law prohibits tattooing anyone under the age of 18. Tattoo artists also must be licensed.
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DannyB II:
:shamrock: :shamrock:
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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Link to News Article
The special needs student was told he wouldn't be picked on at his New Hampshire high school if he submitted to having obscene words tattooed on his backside, police said.
CONCORD, N.H. -- Four people have been charged with tattooing a 14-year-old special needs student on his backside, against his will, Concord police said.
The boy, whose name was not released, told police the four told him he wouldn't be picked on at Concord High School if he submitted to it. An image, with two obscene words was tattooed on him May 10, police said.
The victim was targeted because he's intellectually challenged, prosecutor Scott Murray said.
"You put yourself in this kid's position, your heart has to go out to him," said Sgt. John Thomas, who said the boy has been picked on so much that he would do anything to stop it. "It's gotten so bad that you have to subject your body to being scarred for life, just to be accepted by your peers."
Blake VanNest, 18, is charged with assault, endangering the welfare of a minor, tattooing without a license, indecent exposure and criminal threatening. Donald Wyman, 20, is charged with criminal liability for the conduct of another and conspiracy to endanger the welfare of a minor.
Two others -- Ryan Fisk, 19 and Travis Johnston, 18, -- are also charged.
Johnson, who said he allowed it take place at his house, told WMUR-TV he wished it never happened.
"Before I got in trouble, I regretted it," he said.
The family of the boy said they planned to speak out about the growing problem of school bullying in the coming the days.
"This is a very emotional time for our family, as we are still trying to absorb what was done to our child," the family said through a lawyer.
The boy told police that despite his protests VanNest said he would get a tattoo whether he liked it or not, police said. The boy said he eventually agreed because VanNest told him he would no longer be picked on at school.
The boy told police that when he arrived at the home to get the tattoo he said again that he didn't want one, but VanNest threatened him.
Wyman drew the tattoo on the boy, and Fisk and VanNest did the tattooing, prosecutors said.
The next day, the boy said students in the school were passing around pictures of the tattoo. A teacher overheard a conversation about it called police.
New Hampshire law prohibits tattooing anyone under the age of 18. Tattoo artists also must be licensed.
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And this is just one example of the still living, most don't even make it to tell the story. After repetitive abuse (trying to fit in socially) they shut down totally and eventually hurt themselves so destructively that they go to far.
Home schooling for the kids who are borderline and a specialized program for the more severe. Why?????? because unless God made you a "special" parent you can not handle the task and in most cases (if you want to get honest) don't want to. If you have money maybe your child gets good care if not well you become dependent upon the State. We all know how that can turn out.
Danny
alcoholics anonymous:
Danny did the persons you beat at ELAN have aspergers? Since when did you become a fucking damn mental health expert all of a sudden? Ya nothing but a child beater!
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