Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
Recent Aspen cutback and re-structure
DannyB II:
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--- Quote from: "AuntieEm2" ---A respected adolescent psychiatrist in practice at a major university reviewed the Aspen approach and reported to me that it "does not comport with any method we teach or advocate at any credible institution of adolescent psychiatry in the country."
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I have spoken to professionals in the field who feel the opposite. So it goes to show that people are divided on the issue, but there is no reason to be hateful towards others, AuntieEm2. If you feel a staff person is ridiculing a student then they should be identified and the school should be notified.
--- Quote ---You just hate it that I'm right. Go ahead, blow more smoke now. Blah, blah, blah. Send your links to your bogus studies, blather on in long posts about what a horrible person I am, attack everyone on fornits. Blah, blah, blah.
Auntie Em
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I don’t really care how you feel, Auntie, I was just saying that you make statements (to degrade people and schools) that you just make up out of thin air, because you are angry, like:
“Ha! They go from occasional peer ridicule to incessant staff ridicule.”
And then you get pissed like you did above when I or anyone else calls you on your BS.
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So ... Auntie Em relates something from her personal experience, and you call it making "statements (to degrade people and schools) that you just make up out of thin air?" Nice...
I'm also not really sure where you get this "when I or anyone else calls you on your BS" with regards to Auntie Em, Whooter, since you're the one who usually gets called on that! Certainly not Auntie Em!
Are you that desperate that you need to distort facts -- and make up imaginary friends -- in order to convince others that you have some credibility here? :D
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:shamrock: :shamrock:
Ursus spoke:
Are you that desperate that you need to distort facts -- and make up imaginary friends -- in order to convince others that you have some credibility here?
Danny spoke:
No Ursus I don't think he is but I know who is. I'm a friend and I find him very credible as I find you, as far as friends and credibility go on a internet site.
Danny
elanasshole:
Danny is desperate for Whooters love and affection because Danny doesn't get it from his own family at home. His family left him because they got sick and tired of his booze antics a couple months back.
Anne Bonney:
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No Ursus I don't think he is but I know who is. I'm a friend and I find him very credible as I find you, as far as friends and credibility go on a internet site.
Danny
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First......I wish you'd learn to use the quote feature. It's really not that difficult and it would make wading thru your friggin' shamrocks and "Danny spoke/Ursus spoke" posts much easier.
Second....might I direct your attention to this thread....
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=27903
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---John D. Reuben is a wanna-be EdCon 'who' started a business making referrals to known abusive programs. He has linked up with some of the most familiar bogeymen of the TTI such as Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and many others, like NATSAP and Aspen Education.
John's son, 'who' was forced into two abusive programs, SUWS and ASR, did not receive the help he desperately needed from the unlicensed, unseducated staff of SUWS and ASR, but he was able to make it through, getting out at age 18. Since the boy's legitimate psychological issues were never addressed while he was detained by for-profit quacks, his family bond was destroyed and when he came home from ASR he estranged himself from John and went back to his old behaviors (as almost every teen does after being detained by quacks) and got much more deeply into much harder drugs, turning to heroin to get his fix and escape from his terrible problems that his father refused to seek legitimate treatment for.
Eventually Michael Joshua Reuben overdosed on heroin and died due to his father's neglect in his time of need.
John's son Max H. Reuben is also a program veteran, but John declines to say which program.
Please lend your support in researching John's connections to the TTI and those of his firm STICC.
John, if you had followed sound medical advice, Mike would still be with us today. Max, although still living, is deeply scarred by his experiences that you forced him into. Now you want other people to follow your example which leads to psychological destruction or even death. John used paid death notices in newspapers accross the country to draw attention to STICC and to get donations to send other kids to SUWS and ASR, a particularly misguided and disgusting thing to do.
Thank you to Mike's roommate [name withheld] who sought me out to tell Mike's story here and ask us here at Fornits to try to cripple STICC as a referral source to programs that verifiably kill children and are 100% ineffective.
R.I.P., Mike. Your dad let you down, but your friends love you eternally. :peace:
Please add your thoughts to this topic.
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DannyB II:
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No Ursus I don't think he is but I know who is. I'm a friend and I find him very credible as I find you, as far as friends and credibility go on a internet site.
Danny
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First......I wish you'd learn to use the quote feature. It's really not that difficult and it would make wading thru your friggin' shamrocks and "Danny spoke/Ursus spoke" posts much easier.
Second....might I direct your attention to this thread....
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=27903
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---John D. Reuben is a wanna-be EdCon 'who' started a business making referrals to known abusive programs. He has linked up with some of the most familiar bogeymen of the TTI such as Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and many others, like NATSAP and Aspen Education.
John's son, 'who' was forced into two abusive programs, SUWS and ASR, did not receive the help he desperately needed from the unlicensed, unseducated staff of SUWS and ASR, but he was able to make it through, getting out at age 18. Since the boy's legitimate psychological issues were never addressed while he was detained by for-profit quacks, his family bond was destroyed and when he came home from ASR he estranged himself from John and went back to his old behaviors (as almost every teen does after being detained by quacks) and got much more deeply into much harder drugs, turning to heroin to get his fix and escape from his terrible problems that his father refused to seek legitimate treatment for.
Eventually Michael Joshua Reuben overdosed on heroin and died due to his father's neglect in his time of need.
John's son Max H. Reuben is also a program veteran, but John declines to say which program.
Please lend your support in researching John's connections to the TTI and those of his firm STICC.
John, if you had followed sound medical advice, Mike would still be with us today. Max, although still living, is deeply scarred by his experiences that you forced him into. Now you want other people to follow your example which leads to psychological destruction or even death. John used paid death notices in newspapers accross the country to draw attention to STICC and to get donations to send other kids to SUWS and ASR, a particularly misguided and disgusting thing to do.
Thank you to Mike's roommate [name withheld] who sought me out to tell Mike's story here and ask us here at Fornits to try to cripple STICC as a referral source to programs that verifiably kill children and are 100% ineffective.
R.I.P., Mike. Your dad let you down, but your friends love you eternally. :peace:
Please add your thoughts to this topic.
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:shamrock: :shamrock:
Anne, at some point I will ask how to do it, Felice calls me a retard. I have not learned and do not want to. I like how I do it.
Second I have read that and many more and have had many conversations with folks I believe that would be more in the know as to who this Whooter really is and yes pun intended. What I have come up with is "the message" what message is he/she delivering. For me it is a message worth reading for the data and conversation. I do not want to get into whether he is a paid shill or not as far as I'm concerned I don't care at this point. Why? Nobody has a shred of proof and y'all are despicable in how you talk about his son. I am not a Whooter anything, just a objective party looking at ongoing contentious relationship.
I can only hope this is not going to bother you to the point you start to attack me as others have. I am entitled to my own views and will not compromise.
I will make a effort to improve my internet posting....lol.
Danny
elanasshole:
--- Quote ---Anne you should know better by now I am not going to do it. I have not learned and do not want to. I like how I do it.
Second I have read that and many more and have had many conversations with folks I believe that would be more in the know as to who this Whooter really is. What I have come up with "the message" what message is he/she delievering. For me it is a message worth reading for the data and conversation. I am not going to get into whether he is a paid shill or whatever, I am still having a hard time understanding that concept in regards to fornits anyway. I can only hope this is not going to bother you to the point you start to attack me as others have. I am entitled to my own views and will not compromise.
Danny
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Danny why don't you learn how to write correctly? Your writing skills suck shit you dumb ass tortilla tit Mexican. Your views are not worth listening to because you were a child abuser from ELAN and will always be one. Danny you cannot change old habits. People on this website think you're a pile of garbage. You should be in a prison cell for committing crimes against children you asshole.
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