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Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2003-09-24 21:00:00, Deborah wrote:
"***You haven't convinced me that High Impact was wwasps.
Brainwashing tends to have that effect.
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Yes, it does. So don't get too distracted with the fools errand of trying to deprogram brainwashed people. It's like trying to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig. Instead, let's just concentrate on getting the word out to the sane people in this country to restrain the crazies.
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The truth eventually come out. How do you people sleep at night? You have such high expectations of your children- to function with integrity and honesty. It certainly appears to be a case of "Do as I say, Not as I do." You're just creepy.
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Tell me about it! When I got out of Straight I had to fight my mother tooth and nail through the courts to stay out. Even after I turned of age, she tried to force me into the other Straight, LIFE in Osprey just down the road from Sarasota. I was vaguely aware of some investigations and lawsuites at the time. But I really wasn't interested in that. I was tired, didn't want to fight, never did want to fight my parents to begin with and just wanted to get on with my life.
Years later, I found some of the news articles that were all over the papers at the time. And I talked to people who were involved in the investigations and building the indictment against the Program. I found that there is absolutely no way that my mother could not have known what she was trying to force me into.
It was a strange feeling. I felt vindicated because this was pretty much solid evidence of those subtle and difficult to explain reasons why I couldn't have anything to do with her. But, at the same time, it was crushing. In some ways, I liked it better when it was an unsettled question, maybe I was just an asshole daughter asking too much from my mother.
A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question
about it.
--GW Büsh, Business Week, July 30, 2001
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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2003-09-24 22:21:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Deborah - get your facts straight.
Parent Resources markets wwasps.
Parent Resources also markets other programs - including, at one time, High Impact. PR was the only one that had permission to do so since the other marketing companies are restricted to wwasps PERIOD.
A former employee of Casa by the Sea opened High Impact. High Impact was suggested when a teen was violent and was no longer welcome at a wwasps school.
It wasn't owned by or operated by WWASPS.
There were other kids there that were never in a wwasps school.
I've done my homework. :wink:
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MOST of the marketing for HI was done internally since MOST of the teens were sent from a wwasp program to HI then back to another wwasp program. Not much need for marketing outside of wwasp. The facility made the travel arrangements and the billing didn't change while the child was at HI.
Are you suggesting that only violent teens were sent to HI? Jay Kay suggested sending my son to HI because he was too comfortable and was not progressing. He was never violent. Not welcome at other schools? When I chose not to send my son to HI there was no talk of him not being welcome at TB.
There may have been others at HI that were not from a wwasp school but I am willing to bet they were referred to another wwasp facility before leaving HI. And there is no question that the vast majority were sent there from a wwasp facility on the recommendation of someone at the child's program.
I suggest your homework is incomplete.
Judy
Anonymous:
I know this may be a stupid question, but as I was watching the girl say they never even had books, it showed bookcases packed with books. Do they need regular school books for computer based classes? I know the computer based classes are common now, especially in charter schools. Whatever...just a question and an observation - I don't buy the parents being asked to send books because they didn't have any. I do think they were probably just asking for more...happens all the time, even in public schools.
anon:
At one time there were no books. When Dundee was seeking accreditation ( something I had been assured they had already) one of the problems was their were no books in the library. A call went out to the parents for donations. I sent a lot of books and tapes myself - and assume others did as well. I wonder who has them now? I sent some awfully good books. Anyway - at one time there were none - and I imagine thats what was spoken of. And if the parents hadn?t ponyed up, there wouldn?t ever have been any. And I don?t think they ever did have school books like a kid in ?regular? school has.
Weather you buy it or not - its the truth. However, to be clear 'no books' in this case means very very few. For instance - as I recall the photos of the library at the time - a shelf that could hold say 100 books, had maybe 3.
[ This Message was edited by: KarenZ on 2003-09-26 08:59 ]
Carey:
--- Quote ---clear 'no books' in this case means very very few.
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Karen, you sound just like Clinton...depends on what your definition of 'no books' "is".
--- Quote ---and I imagine thats what was spoken of
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That is what you seem to be good at...imagining.
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